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Date:      Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:26:13 -0700
From:      "Crist Clark" <crist.clark@globalstar.com>
To:        Jamie Norwood <mistwolf@mushhaven.net>
Cc:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPFW almost works now.
Message-ID:  <3B26F975.84A0AD02@globalstar.com>
References:  <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA0166D97D@goofy.epylon.lan> <20010612152856.A72299@mushhaven.net> <3B267827.5090002@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010612162749.A73655@mushhaven.net> <200106122044.QAA93356@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <15142.42704.228823.693752@nomad.yogotech.com> <200106122356.f5CNubp50204@earth.backplane.com> <20010613000346.A398@mushhaven.net>

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Jamie Norwood wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:56:37PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote:
> >
> >     If you have to have a web server, and would only also have a ftp
> >     server to 'optimize' transfers, I would submit that whatever
> >     performance one perceives as having gained from running the ftp
> >     server (which I think is Balderdash as well) is offset by the fact
> >     that you are now running two pieces of server software that might
> >     potentially create a security hazzard rather then one.
> >
> >     Since I can't do without my web server, ftpd is the one I turn off.
> >
> >     Historically, a plain old Apache with no fancy modules turned on
> >     is just as secure... in fact, even more secure... then ftpd.  Maybe
> >     because web servers focus on read-only stuff whereas ftpd tries to
> >     be general purpose read/write/exec/chmod/only-god-knows-what-else.
> 
> So how, then, do you propose people upload files, a common use of ftp?

HTTP has POST and PUT. See RFC2616 for all of HTTP 1.1's capabilities.
Compare to RFC0959 for FTP (see section 4.1).
-- 
Crist J. Clark                                Network Security Engineer
crist.clark@globalstar.com                    Globalstar, L.P.
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