Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:55:06 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders <marc@oldserver.demon.nl> To: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> Cc: Julian Stacey <jhs@muc.de>, freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: free slow channel Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002140347590.67860-100000@propro.oldserver.demon.nl> In-Reply-To: <20000214131525.Q2699@freebie.lemis.com>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Monday, 14 February 2000 at 3:41:38 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday, 14 February 2000 at 3:28:05 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Saturday, 12 February 2000 at 2:29:58 +0100, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thursday, 10 February 2000 at 16:33:15 +0000, Julian Stacey wrote:
> >>>>>>> A friend told me in [last weekend's (5&6 Feb 2000)?] Suddeutsche Zeitung
> >>>>>>> `Computer & Co' supplement, it reported that, as of 9/2000 Deutsche Telekom
> >>>>>>> would offer free continuous ISDN connection at low bandwidth.
> >>>>>>> I presume this is buried inside the 16K D channel,
> >>>>>>> I hope it's not tied into their own ISP service, but is generic,
> >>>>>>> Anyone know more ? If I find out more I'll post.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't know about Germany, but I do know that another European
> >>>>>> carrier is experimenting with this idea. I've been asked not to
> >>>>>> reveal which, though if you have been following the FreeBSD lists you
> >>>>>> should have seen the message and noticed what is going on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please, give us a hint, someone. I suppose it won't be my country,
> >>>>> where the former state-owned telephone company still has a monopoly on
> >>>>> local calls. We pay $1.50 an hour for internet during office hours
> >>>>> (which are from 8 to 8 hours for this purpose).
> >>>>> If, it is us (NL=Netherlands=Holland), it might be nice to know asap
> >>>>> to start finding ways to set up things...
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I forgot the name of the person who sent the mail message, but
> >>>> he was asking why his pings always took a multiple of 10 ms. It
> >>>> turned out it had something to do with the way the exchange forwarded
> >>>> the packets.
> >>>
> >>> I will look for the message once the search is up and running again
> >>> at freebsd.org. Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Though I fear my pings suggest it must be another country:
> >>>
> >>> propro:marc {101} ping venster.nl
> >>> PING venster.nl (212.204.195.108): 56 data bytes
> >>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=54.161 ms
> >>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=52.955 ms
> >>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=54.257 ms
> >>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=54.473 ms
> >>> 64 bytes from 212.204.195.108: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=54.608 ms
> >>> ^C
> >>
> >> You're not pinging over the D channel.
> >
> > Could I? If so, where do I found howto?
>
> Obviously, if your system supports it. But as I said, I'm not saying
> whether it was your telco or not, and the odds are against it.
>
Indeed, they seem to be. I may have found the message you were
referring to above using deja.com. The question was from .dk.
> Sorry to be so secretive, but I was asked not to reveal this
> information, and as I understand it, it is not available yet anyway.
> I'm sure you'll find out soon enough when (or if) it becomes available
> in your area.
>
I am not so sure. When querying the one and only telecom company
offering connection (see above), either by phone, email or ordinary
mail, I hardly ever get any reply and never an answer. And I can be
very polite. They just do not *have* to reply, as I cannot switch to a
more cooperative company anyway. Unfortunately the same applies to
cable companies, here in any case. No choice, therefore no service.
--
Marc Schneiders
marc@venster.nl http://zelf.net
marc@oldserver.demon.nl
propro 3:46am up 6 days, 5:57, load average: 2.16 2.03 2.02
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