From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 25 22:26:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44ABE106564A for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFD08FC13 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so6598333wib.13 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:26:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EtJGTbhETn8faF7UTrssI78XT/By+xhVZ3OA/djsMkE=; b=EX/brXHPBtafSG9Bz3suYXSmbWYeaeiwAbTKmyBazyt+Abfx5eBOq7xL58Zzuc3dSH 9eQ9Oyoe3ZAxK9pvE1/3ih34pExQadrJgYsckZ3nxj7jBm+iK4eu0Ywv+0xE8NbGCrnC tkTQkA6FT/3qhi4B05SlSysnaM4qZQUSeOqpM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.103.97 with SMTP id fv1mr31554840wib.17.1327530383715; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.82.2 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:26:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120125202246.GA26447@lonesome.com> References: <20120125072809.GA11115@lonesome.com> <20120125202246.GA26447@lonesome.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: Mark Linimon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:26:25 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 03:58:41AM -0500, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >> > You seem to be obsessed by picking over >> > semantics and finding shortcomings to be aggreived over. >> > >> Semantics and proper, independent, API are crucial. > > I'm talking about the semantics of the non-technical part: the wording > of things that people post in email. =A0viz: the time-wasting nonsense > about "oh, it seems to be released already, has anyone noticed?" from > a few weeks ago. > > It was 100% FUD, which apparently you knew perfectly well at the time, > and thus AFAICT only posted it to draw attention to yourself. > > That's the drama I'm talking about. > you are misquoting and misinterpreting me, I merely asked "Has 9.0 been released ?", followed by misleading clues I tried to gather in a thread where the original poster's uname shown "9-RELEASE". I see no FUD in this and none was intended. The rest of the thread indeed went ballistic. - Arnaud