From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 27 14:27:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3002516A468; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914A113C474; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A555D1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.85.209]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6506D2E2B0; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CE05B4D81; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l7REQt2n012545; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:26:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:26:55 +0200 Message-ID: <20070827162655.3e3x0cse8w44o4o4@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:26:55 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek References: <20070824215515.GF16131@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070824.172212.74696955.imp@bsdimp.com> <200708270850.20904.jhb@freebsd.org> <20070827135625.GF29854@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <20070827135625.GF29854@garage.freebsd.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 8, BAYES_00 -15.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:56:36 +0000 Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, John Baldwin , alfred@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, deischen@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, yar@comp.chem.msu.su, Warner Losh Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen fts-compat.c fts-compat.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:27:16 -0000 Quoting Pawel Jakub Dawidek (from Mon, 27 Aug 2007 =20 15:56:25 +0200): > On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 08:50:19AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Folks running -current are also committers that use -current to test as > much as they can, but also to use it for day-to-day work. Isn't it why > we have perforce and other policies, so that -current can be stable and > usable? If we have tools that can help -current users to use the system > smoothly, I'm all for using them. I can't imagine taking yet another two > days and reinstalling all ports, just because -current users are not Only 2 days? Lucky you, I'm just through a complete recompile of every =20 port after the gcc 4.2.1 import (unluckily 4.2.1 doesn't fix all known =20 bugs) just to be on the safe side, and a complete recompile after the =20 gcc 4.2.0 import... and it takes nearly a week on my machine. > important. Of course -current users know how to deal with things like > this, but that doesn't mean they have to if there is another way. > The more surprises like that one, the less -current users we will have, > which means the less testing. > If there will be a need for me to reinstall all the ports I'll choose > not to upgrade or downgrade to 6.x... So the really important thing for you is: How many ports are affected =20 by this change? Does anyone have an estimate for this? If not, does someone has an exhaustive list of affected symbols? I can =20 write a short script which has a look into each installed port to =20 determine if it is affected or not (based upon the assumption that you =20 don't mind if we overlook a few things... I'm not sure if statically =20 linked binaries contain enough information). Bye, Alexander. --=20 The very remembrance of my former misfortune proves a new one to me. =09=09-- Miguel de Cervantes http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137