From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Tue May 4 04:20:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15BB624FEF for ; Tue, 4 May 2021 04:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (www.zefox.net [50.1.20.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "www.zefox.com", Issuer "www.zefox.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FZ6875Wf5z4ZWM for ; Tue, 4 May 2021 04:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.zefox.net (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 1444KOlu042487 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 May 2021 21:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: (from fbsd@localhost) by www.zefox.net (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) id 1444KOvR042486; Mon, 3 May 2021 21:20:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd) Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 21:20:24 -0700 From: bob prohaska To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timezone problems on -current Message-ID: <20210504042024.GA42279@www.zefox.net> References: <20210503153442.GB37236@www.zefox.net> <20210504015222.GE37236@www.zefox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FZ6875Wf5z4ZWM X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fbsd@www.zefox.net has no SPF policy when checking 50.1.20.27) smtp.mailfrom=fbsd@www.zefox.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; WWW_DOT_DOMAIN(0.50)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zefox.net]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[50.1.20.27:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[50.1.20.27:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7065, ipnet:50.1.16.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm]; MID_RHS_WWW(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 May 2021 04:20:24 -0000 On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 04:38:56AM +0100, tech-lists wrote: > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 06:52:22PM -0700, bob prohaska wrote: > > > Up to now I've used only the line > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > Seems ntpdate isn't required if these are set in /etc/rc.conf > > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" > > even on boards with no RTC. Indeed it looks as if ntpdate is going away, replaced by enhancements to ntpd. Still, I think the timekeeping errors are caused by a somewhat unconventional network setup on the machine having problems. The rest of the hosts in my "data center" use ntpdate and have no trouble keeping their clocks right, but those hosts all have wired ethernet. The host with the wrong clock setting uses an ethernet-to-wifi adapter. Can't be sure until more testing is done. And, I might be wrong again..... Thanks for writing, bob prohaska