From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 10 19:22:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31C2106564A for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 19:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C738FC1E for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 19:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so1440064ana.13 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 12:22:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mYWqKo3fzmVRXz7RaqdrOgLm6ndnjdQTr0SqSnyGNjI=; b=toMDcbX4+cRYVoWsFr3XVY5td5lcHipB0yeEbIiFClTTSAxeZVjIrf40vry0hSxORQ k74f3JWhaP6XrF0ncsAt0lM55W/BSSYhJYu3bOAxIaiBi3EgLHihb1Mt3ryOao0A5v4U rfqOW6pylGVjSNrfr4LSt3SaDfIbhTvoslsM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d1tsmHeX4FZyzj7mWa65z5TQBq9mnccZce5G2dnQ38i7tOcc10D3tOQhAsSI3BvsAc Mf06W/RKh/6/DwtcrJF/84Y5ARSP5A/bn4gZtR20iCsRpH3bvy1LA1uBrlckiTq3BRi8 M5tYozlAgX8db/+iMZk7UHXnaaoAFtiseVG8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.12.1 with SMTP id 1mr14889985anl.107.1241983324644; Sun, 10 May 2009 12:22:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310905101008n73d26145h3d81914925aab965@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:22:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310905101222g63867982p6161ff0ddd1b6850@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Marcin Wisnicki Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] NO_INSTALL in meta-ports considered harmful X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:22:06 -0000 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > On Sun, 10 May 2009 13:08:56 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > >> I'm not sure if this is the 'right answer', but NO_INSTALL allows the >> proper installation of numerous ports from one location (the meta-port). >> =A0An example of this is the misc/instant-server port (though >> unmaintained, IIRC). >> >> If you remove the NO_INSTALL line from the Makefile, 'make' thinks >> misc/instant-server should be installed, rather than the collection of >> ports it is intended to install. > > They will be installed since they are run dependencies. > >From what I can tell (from several metaports) -- they, themselves, are not installed. The ports defined in the metaport are installed. There is no source code for, using your example, CUPS[1]. CUPS (in the FreeBSD ports tree) is, for lack of a better explanation, a pointer to which specific ports you need to have in order to get a fully operation CUPS system running. Looking at the Makefile for print/cups [2] you can see the dependencies and that CUPS is not actually built (which in definition is what makes this a metaport). [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/print/cups [2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/print/cups/Makefile?rev=3D1= .43 --=20 Glen Barber