From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 16:35:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4205C371; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from msxedgnsprd02.gw.upmc.edu (msxedgnsprd02.gw.upmc.edu [128.147.248.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "edgesmtp.upmc.edu", Issuer "DigiCert Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01984C0A; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from MSXHCSNSPRD06.acct.upmchs.net (10.25.36.150) by msxedgnsprd02.gw.upmc.edu (128.147.248.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.279.5; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:33:59 -0400 Received: from MSXMBXNSPRD18.acct.upmchs.net ([fe80::b9c2:2a8f:4156:e29a]) by MSXHCSNSPRD06.acct.upmchs.net ([fe80::bc42:b062:936d:ca9e%16]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:34:00 -0400 From: "Person, Roderick" To: Randi Harper , Jordan Hubbard Subject: RE: Leaving the Desktop Market Thread-Index: AQHPTXK/Sv0Vejkt9U6Rw5R4emlPapr8m1GAgACWugD//8CwQA== Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:33:59 +0000 Message-ID: <09D177203C215546ACA94AF0459D4989EFF9DF@msxmbxnsprd18.acct.upmchs.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.24.32.190] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:15:51 +0000 Cc: "FreeBSD, Advocacy" , "hackers@freebsd.org" , "current@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:35:58 -0000 -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Randi Harper > >You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Because all the nerds ar= e going to step up and say "Well, I run FreeBSD on my >desktop! It's total= ly viable!" > >Dear nerds, get some perspective. You aren't an end user, and you're masoc= histic. It's okay, we accept you here. But your individual >use case doesn'= t indicate a place in the market. Your basement isn't a market. It's a base= ment. Your small company isn't a market. It's a >small company. Many compan= ies combined create a market. Why aren't all the nerds and small businesses out there a market? I'm no m= arketing expert or anything, but it would seem that there is some kind of m= arket out there that isn't being catered to. I may be a masochist, but I r= efuse to have to pay Apples prices for their hardware. They just seem insa= ne to me. If they ever decided to sell OS X for non-Apple hardware I might= use it. And just for the record I've been using FreeBSD as an exclusive home deskto= p since 1999. =20 At work now so however Outlook mangles this is my fault :) Rod Person Programmer (412)454-2616 Just because it can been done, does not mean it should be done.