Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:59:42 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Griping about the ports collection (Re: OpenOffice2.0 64Bit ready?) Message-ID: <20050811145942.GA80118@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050811145238.GA11289@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20050802172840.GE71672@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050805225309.GA99941@luke.immure.com> <20050810034707.GA49313@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050810061322.GA91774@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20050810230238.GA3571@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050810232819.GA1035@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20050811005508.GA35453@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050811051125.GA8733@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20050811130805.GA48042@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050811145238.GA11289@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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--vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:52:38AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:08:05AM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 10:11:25PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 08:55:08PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 04:28:19PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:02:38PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:13:22PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > To some extent, the Ports Collection has outlived its usefuln= ess. > > > > > > > It took me 4 hours to fix libgmp4 and add a new port for mpfr > > > > > > > because the Porter's Handbook is useless. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Thanks for the constructive criticism! > > > > >=20 > > > > > Your welcomed. Now, I'll wait to see how long it=20 > > > > > takes to commit the change. > > > >=20 > > > > *sound of sarcasm going by Steve* > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Touche. > > >=20 > > > man ports > > >=20 > > > BUGS > > > Ports documentation is split over four places -- > > > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, The Porter's Handbook, the ``Packages= and > > > Ports'' chapter of The FreeBSD Handbook, and this manual page. > >=20 > > Do you have a specific point? Some of those 4 sources duplicate a lot > > of information, and also cover different areas. What about this, > > precisely, makes the Porters' Handbook "useless", in your opinion? >=20 > Each of those documents contains material not found in the others. > One may need to read *all* 4 to find the answer to their question. > That is, if one knows all 4 exists. To repeat: what, *precisely*, is missing from the Porters' Handbook that makes it "useless"? > > > I believe sarcasm looks like > > >=20 > > > 2000/06/30 ports/19594 new port: x11/qrash-sdl > >=20 > > If you say so. > >=20 >=20 > Oh the irony. This repartee started with my statement "To some > extent, the Ports Collection has outlived its usefulness." I listed > only those PR's with "new port" in the subject. Don't you find > it somewhat useless for someone to submit a "new port" when it sits > in the PR database for 5 years, 1 month, 12 days. Several of the > others have sat in the PR database for 3 or more years. Did you actually read the PR? The submitter is a committer, so it's his own responsibility to deal with, and the PR is suspended indicating it is not currently a candidate for committing. Most of the other old "new ports" have similar problems. Kris --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFC+2feWry0BWjoQKURAnMMAJsH2Hq9TDhGYpaF5NrmzuEdM5kyHACg9t21 ihZ04ohTK0Z3Glex62Tw1QA= =Ldbr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd--
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