From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 18 23:11:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.visi.com (baal.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058E114D68 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:11:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mtempel@mail.visi.com) Received: from dirac (dirac.fofx.org [209.98.236.73]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id BAA07537; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:11:08 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:11:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003501bf624b$5c2c0040$49ec62d1@dirac> From: "Mark Tempel" To: "Lyndon Griffin" Cc: References: Subject: Re: hello ello llo lo o Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:03:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndon Griffin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Re: hello ello llo lo o > >From the "for what it's worth" department: > > Good info, Jason. Thanks. > > I would like, if there are no strong oppositions, to take ownership of the > FreeBSD/SPARC(32) porting efforts. I must stress that this is only for > the 32bit SPARC architectures, as I am not yet fortunate enough to own any > sun4u machines. I don't know to what extent the two can co-exist in a > single port - based on the various other distributions (OpenBSD, NetBSD, > Debian, and RedHat), I think this may be a smart move. Comments on that > are welcome, and we can certainly open it up for discussion on a new > thread. If you are willing to take ownership of this port, I have no objections. > In the next few days, I will set up a dedicated area on my web site to > handle port status information, FAQ, etc. I'll post the URL here. I can > also set up a CVS server there and start tracking -current. Even if I'm > not heading up the show, these are valuable resources for any project. > > I think leveraging existing code from any available (by available, I mean > borrowing from Net-, Open-, and Free- existing code base) source is the > quickest route to a running system. We can re-engineer anything not > specifically FreeBSD-core compliant prior to designating a release. I have been reading the alpha port mailing list archieves for the past couple of days. It appears that they started by having a few (maybe one) people start looking into porting the kernel while alot of other people were busy building the userland on a system bootstrapped off of a NetBSD install. Look for the post in the Jan 11 1998 archieves. The message is from John Birrell with the subject: Bootstrapping FreeBSD/Alpha. He basically gives a roadmap on how to do this (the userland) work. I noticed that work using a cross compiler was abandoned ( I think).... Any Comments? Am I wrong about this? > I must admit that I have almost -zero- experience as a SPARC coder. In > other words, I have no clue what I'm getting myself into, here. The > really twisted thing is that is my reason for doing it. I have worked on several software systems both in my life as a student and in my professional life, but I too am new to something of this magnitude. > Can I get a sound-off of those who are ready to start working immediately? > It would probably be a good idea to post the "team" information on the > status page. I have a SS5 and was planning to try to bootstrap a userland development environment off of NetBSD (following the steps John Birrell used on the post I mentioned above) over the next few weeks. I have never done this before so I am not sure about a timeline for completion of the initial tasks involved in this. I believe that there have been several starts on this project in the past. If I am duplicating work foolishly please let me know. I am open to (and am hoping to hear) any comments. Thanks, Mark Tempel mtempel@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message