Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:03:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Alberto de Poo Bas <adepoo@tamnet.com.mx> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990507130053.16896A-100000@correo.tamnet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905071234250.24019-100000@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org>
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You usualy see a lot of this "ME TOO!" mails, but no one knows realy how many are having this problem. How many people do you think that their Win9X machine reboots daily? 10%, 50%, 100%? And how many people out of the universe of 3.1-STABLE installations are? Of course, you can see 40 posts in a mailist and asume 90% or more are having problmes, but realy how many are there? On Fri, 7 May 1999, Seth wrote: > But it's NOT the same. His reboots occur when he starts X. Yours occur > randomly (or periodically. Nobody can tell since there's no debugging > information you can provide right now). > > The problem with "ME TOO!" hysteria is that everyone wants to jump on the > bandwagon when a subset of the symptoms match. This just adds to the > noise level and makes troubleshooting real problems that much more > difficult. > > Now, your problem may indeed be the same as Joe's... but given that the > most significant event (the trigger) doesn't match, I think you'll > have a hard time justifying a correlation. > > To move forward, perhaps someone can help you figure out how to capture > the necessary information for the people who will eventually identify and > fix the problem (I'm waiting for this information myself, BTW. I'll take > another stab at the Handbook.) > > SB > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > > I am looking like an idiot! I have pushed and pushed to get FreeBSD > > installed as the replacement > > primary servers. (DNS, Web, Firewall, E-Mail, NAT.....) Now ........... well > > the rest is history............ > > (3.1-Stable) > > > > 2 Days... reboot.... 2 Days.....reboot..... > > Always around 16.29pm BST. > > > > No beep.....Same here!! > > No Panic....Same here!! > > Hangs.........Same here!! > > Reboots......Same here!! > > Starts up and runs perfectly....Same here!! > > WTF... yes#!@? > > > > I have compiled ddb... and so on but have no idea what to do next! > > > > Greg > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Jacobson <marauder@jaygrp.intelihealth.com> > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> > > Date: 07 May 1999 15:45 > > Subject: Strange reboot saga > > > > > > > > > >Came home a couple of days ago to my wife telling me that my 3.1-STABLE box > > >rebooted on her when she was surfing. (She habitually causes netscape 4.5 > > >to crash, but I thought the box going down was a bit strange.) I find the > > >machine in a powered down state, bring it back up, and log in as myself. > > >I immediately startx, the graphics mode changes, and then it hangs for a > > >couple of seconds, and all of a sudden I'm looking at the boot message > > >from my graphics card. No beep, no panic, just an instantaneous reboot. > > >The machine comes back up, I log in as root, check the logs, (I'm keeping > > >*.debug syslogs), dmesg, nothing. startx (as root), nothing. Log in as > > >myself, startx, everything is great. I chalk it up to an act of Eris. > > > > > >Last night, I built the world, from sources two days ago. Everything went > > >peachy. Recompiled the kernel, rebooted, the box comes up fine. Log in > > >as myself, startx, it reboots. WTF? Watch the box come up again, log in > > >as myself, startx, it reboots again. WTF?!?! I let the machine come up, > > >and then go to bed, thinking I fscked up the installworld or something. > > >Wake this morning, log in as root, check the logs, nothing. startx, works > > >like a champ, logout, login as myself, startx, works great. > > > > > >If anyone is interested, I suppose I could compile a debugging kernel, > > >reboot, and then startx.... > > > > > >-- > > >Joseph Jacobson <jacobson@pobox.com> Finger for PGP > > >#include <std/disclaimer.h> > > >Two men walk into a bar. The third one ducks. > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Saludos Alberto de Poo TamNet - adepoo@tamnet.com.mx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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