From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 2 07:11:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B769D106566B for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 07:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957888FC17 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 07:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p627BEhT021490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Jul 2011 00:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p627BE2A021489; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 00:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03815; Sat, 2 Jul 11 00:06:34 PDT Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 00:06:36 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: christian.baer@uni-dortmund.de, tevans.uk@googlemail.com Message-Id: <4e0ec37c.K0c+wL6t2YIr09OD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <52F39CE0-EEC7-4180-8186-BF8696AF279D@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crashes with Promise controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 07:11:15 -0000 Tom Evans wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Christian Baer > wrote: > > A serial console is easy enough to set up on a Sun for example, but in > > this case, I am running a simple AthlonXP, which has nothing for that > > sort of help. I would need a special card for that and those cose quite > > a bit. :-( > > Not that special - you just need a serial port on two computers. If > your computers don't have serial ports, USB serial adapters work fine, While it should work up to a point, a USB serial port is not the ideal choice for a console port (on the machine that is crashing), because it requires the USB stack to be working. If that machine has no built-in serial port, but has an available PCI slot, adding a PCI serial port is likely the best choice. > and are cheap, as are (single port) PCI serial cards. > > Alternatively, if both computers have firewire ports, you can use > dcons, and all you need is a cable.