From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 16:28:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE1537B401; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mobile.hub.org (u153n214.eastlink.ca [24.224.153.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0E743F75; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by mobile.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 59347553; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:28:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E273B9; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:28:37 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:28:37 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Sheldon Hearn In-Reply-To: <20030618121620.GG835@starjuice.net> Message-ID: <20030618202302.W51411@hub.org> References: <20030618112226.GA42606@fling-wing.demos.su> <39081.1055937209@critter.freebsd.dk> <20030618121620.GG835@starjuice.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Dmitry Sivachenko cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: "Tim J. Robbins" cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/fs/nullfs null.h null_subr.c null_vnops.c X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:28:46 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/06/18 13:53), Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > With that said, I will also add, that I will take an incredibly > > dim view of anybody who tries to add more gunk in this area, and > > that I am perfectly willing to derail unionfs and nullfs (or pretty > > much anything else on the list above) if that is what it takes to > > clean up the buffer cache. > > Makes sense. After all, these filesystems are only just now recovering > from "we can fix these later" breakage introduced years ago. What's a > few more years without 'em? :-) 'K, this kinda hurts ... there are a growing # of us that are actually using unionfs and nullfs on production systems ... not small servers, but several thousand processes with over 100 union mounts ... other then the vnode leak stuff that David has been investigating, I've yet to see anything that I would considering warranting the 'DO NOT USE / CAVEAT EMPTOR' that is in the man pages ... :(