From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 25 13:57:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00991 for current-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00981 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07544; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:45:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:45:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607252045.OAA07544@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ccd ccd.c src/sys/dev/vn vn.c src/sys/sys conf.h src/sys/i386/isa fd.c mcd.c scd.c wcd.c wd.c wt.c s In-Reply-To: <199607251727.TAA22036@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <3577.838236253@time.cdrom.com> <199607251727.TAA22036@uriah.heep.sax.de> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > it can throw your /dev files away every 5 minutes just for fun if it > > likes - they don't have to use it. > > What sense does it make using /dev entries to unconfigured drivers > (that's about all persistance would give you, isn't it :)? Permissions is the thing I'm most worried about. On my box, /dev/apm is open to the world, and I don't want to have to go edit a file *every* time I want to change the default permissions of a device. On my sun box, I have to write a script to change the default permissions on certain devices where the default permisissions aren't appropriate for my local use. Requiring every user to be a 'sh/perl/C/TCL/' programmer is not acceptable. If the 'persistance' happeens to be in a easy-to-use program like mset which edits the internal tables, it's fine by me. Just as long as I don't have to do it all by hand to change the default permissions. Nate