From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 25 15:34:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D83B1065672 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-arch@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2128FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qwbwx-0002hV-Nr for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:34:35 +0200 Received: from 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru ([90.188.88.208]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:34:35 +0200 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:34:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.88.188.90.adsl.tomsknet.ru X-Comment-To: selven User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:34:38 -0000 Hi selven! On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:06:24 +0400; selven wrote about 'Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve': > Good post as well as pretty much scary. You mentionned about the purity of > FreeBSD at some point, that's one of the reasons why i prefer FreeBSD > (probably many of my friends who do work with it also), I've also said that purity doesn't always in conflict with newer world requirements. We can have both, it is solvable. > Since in a technical board, with 10 people, 7 > out of 10 are ubuntu users, with votes one always loses, and the funny thing > :s 7 out of 10 don't even know the difference between FreeBSD and linux, > they just voice out ubuntu because 'you will end up in trouble finding > people to maintain your stuffs if these 3 leaves' (weirdly we even fixes > there buntu bugs :s ). This user base is really a huge problem. The real problem here is that they're saying "trouble finding people". They are *right* here - there is too small number of FreeBSD'ers. That's our real problem - we should increase our userbase. Our userbase is the problem, not their's userbase. Until there's more of us, we can't fight successfully with them, even if our weapon is stronger. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Anti-Greenpeace][Sober FreeBSD zealot][http://nuclight.livejournal.com]