From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 23 23:19:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles532.castles.com [208.214.165.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030D314D36 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:19:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01437; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911240708.XAA01437@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: Mike Smith , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: speaking of 3.4... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:07:15 EST." <199911240707.CAA00642@rtfm.newton> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:08:23 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am. But only 27 hours ago, in 199911231817.KAA01017@dingo.cdrom.com > you responded to my (referring to the "unable to mount root" problem): > > > The inability to boot after a seemingly successful > > install should be eliminated... > > with: > > The only way to guarantee this is to cause the install > to fail unless the installation program can be 100% > certain of the bootability of the install. There is no contradiction there. "Eliminated" implies a total fix. That's just not currently possible. You could be more scientific and try to enumerate some of the issues, and talk about how each of them might be addressed, which would be more productive. > => WHY CAN'T IT BE AUTOMATED? > = > =It has been. I don't understand what the problem is here. It was a > =problem. It's been fixed. > > Unless there is some gross misunderstanding, this last paragraph > contradicts the one I quoted from your earlier e-mail. Cookie 2. I'm tired of this game. If you care about the issues, read again what I've said and listen for the points I was trying to make rather than looking for ways to score "points". The goal here is to move forwards. This requires admitting that there have been problems, and that these problems cannot be fixed in the past. You've got the first bit down ok - now try swallowing the second half. Then you can start working on the next phase - the solution. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message