From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 6 10:10:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BE237B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28632; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:10:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26IAKo34991; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:10:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15494.23436.196349.224108@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:10:20 -0700 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brett Glass , Nate Williams , Kenneth Culver , "Steve B." , "Eugene L. Vorokov" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C vs C++ In-Reply-To: <3C8659BC.C2FD35ED@mindspring.com> References: <20020305164151.T5854-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> <3C8529DA.FA8ABCE@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020306073237.00cd0b00@localhost> <3C8659BC.C2FD35ED@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > >Not so. Having done C professionally for umpteen years, C++ for a > > >little less than umpteen years, and Java for 4, I can say w/out > > >reservation that C++ sucks. > > > > Actually, C sucks too, but C++ sucks more. Neither is a professional > > tool; you have to be twice the professional to use either as to use > > a safer language (IMHO, of course). > > Languages with training wheels are so that people who would > otherwise have to learn how to ask "Would you like fries with > that?" can contribute productively to programming projects. This is argument made to appease your ego, and have no bias on reality. I can write C/C++/Java as good or better than most, and Java allows me to get more done in a shorter amount of time than any other language. And, not only that, my resulting programs are more reliable and bugfree since I can spend more time worrying about the program, and not the language itself. I'm not saying that other languages don't also exhibit these characteristics, but C++ is one of those languages that constantly gets in the way. Rather than spending time solving the problem, I spend more time worrying about the pitfalls of the language... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message