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Date:      Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:20:20 -0800
From:      "Chuck Swiger via RT" <support@aebc.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   aebc.com email spamming FreeBSD lists, was: [Trouble Ticket #190454] AutoReply: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 38
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Evidently, someone forged a subscription request between the FreeBSD  
mailing lists and <support@aebc.com>.  postmaster@freebsd.org should  
be able to unsubscribe you.

aebc.com autoresponder is software which generates automated replies,  
and it "SHOULD NOT" (see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3834.txt  
section 3.1.8) generate replies when a "Precedence: list",  
"Precedence: bulk", or "Precedence: junk" header appears, and  
subsequent RFC's have recommended that autoresponders also pay  
attention to the "List-Id" and related headers.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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> From: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
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> Hi,
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> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a
> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
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> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device  
> with a
> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and
> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
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> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking will
> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be
> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue booting
> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will  
> check
> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.
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> Thanks for your help.
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> I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the
> latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? It
> appears that some ports are having problems with this odd version
> update; i.e., "/news/inn" and possibly "/mail/mailscanner" as  
> examples.
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> With the latest version of Perl having been released over a year ago,
> it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to waste the time to port
> an older version.
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> -- 
> Jerry
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> that rule when Jesus was born."
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> From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
> portsnap
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I  
>> couldn't
>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>> tool can do
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks.
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:45:28 -0200
> From: Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
> Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>, stable@freebsd.org,
> 	questions@freebsd.org
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> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen  
>>> <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By  
>>>>> some
>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>
>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1  
>>>>> savedlabel)
>>>>
>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>
>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>
>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>
>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>
>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really  
>> written
>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the  
>> system boot
>> from it OK?
>>
>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted backwards
>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>
>> ////jerry
>
> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a disk
> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
> (da0s1), everything but root.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Patrick
>>>> --
>>>> punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>>>> Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>>>> info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>>>> Gf: J���rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ===========
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>>> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
>>> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ===========
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> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:46:06 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: questions@freebsd.org,	"Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Message-ID: <20090121124607.09B94140B0@karpathos.uni5.net>
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>
>   Hi.
>   I believe "YES", based on
>   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.b   in/uname/ 
> uname.c?rev=1.14.28.1;content-type=text%2Fplain   .
>   See "NATIVE_SYSCTL2_GET(version, CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION)", on source
>   abov   I hope I've helped.
>   Trober
>   trober@trober.com
>   -   -
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>   -
>   -
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>   ----- Mensagem Original -----
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>
>   Para: [3]questions@freebsd.org<   Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De  
> 2009    Assunto: source of uname information   <   kern   Robert Huff
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:38:26 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: questions@freebsd.org,	"Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
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>   Hi.
>   I believe "YES", based on [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.    
> cgi/src/usr.bin/uname/uname.c?rev=1.14.28.1;content-type=3
>   Dtext   See "   source above.
>   I hope I've helpe   Trober
>   trober@trober.com
>   -
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>   -
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>   ----- Mensagem Original -----
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>   Para: [3]questions@freebsd.org<   Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De  
> 2009    Assunto: source of uname information   <   kern   Robert Huff
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>
>   1. file://localhost/tmp/3D"htt   2. 3D"mailto:roberthuff@rcn.com    
> 3. 3D"mailto:questions@freebsd.org"
>   4. 3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"   5. ="http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 
> "
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500
> From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Subject: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <18807.7172.480547.436287@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
>>   I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated
>>   to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9
>>   recently?
>
> 	This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on
> ports@.  Check the archives.
> 	If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the
> Perl-porting team.
>
>
> 				Robert Huff
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:00:50 -0200
> From: luizbcampos <luizbcampos@gmail.com>
> Subject: LPRng-3.8.A on FreeBSD-7.0amd64
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<d534d2fe0901210500v392780fal4b90aa4f1e47735@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>     Trying to compile the latest version of LPRng (3.8.A) compatible
> with all plataforms, I got an error:
>
>       $ sh STANDARD_configuration
>        #make clean all install
>        #make: don`t know how to make AM_CPPFLAGS. Stop
>
>
>     I`ve ever upgraded native FBSD-7.0amd64 gcc version-4.2  to the
> latest gcc-44 but the failure lingers on. Suggestions?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:01:37 +0000
> From: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <49771CB1.3090106@unsane.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
>> portsnap
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>> couldn't
>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a tool
>>> can do
>>> this?
>>>
> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the portsnap
> servers, but from the README with it.
>
> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as well.
> There
> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)  
> first."
>
>
>
> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to upgrade,)
> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>
>
> Vince
>
>>> Thanks.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>
>>>
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>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:06:50 -0500
> From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <18807.7658.648830.399278@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Trober <trober@trober.com>:
>
>>>  Am I correct in believing "uname" gets its information from the
>>>  kern.version sysctl?
>>
>>  I believe "YES", based on
>>  [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/uname/uname.c
>>
>>  See "= NATIVE_SYSCTL2_GET(ver= sion, CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION)", on
>>  source above.
>>
>>  I hope I've helped.
>
> 	It does.
> 	Next question:
> 	Can someone explain this:
>
> huff@jerusalem>> sysctl kern.version
> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009
>    huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
> huff@jerusalem>> uname -a
> FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0:  
> Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009     huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/ 
> obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM  i386
>
>
> 				Robert huff
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:53:34 -0600
> From: Bobby <bobby@missionaccess.org>
> Subject: Re: kvm switch
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <200901201853.34513.bobby@missionaccess.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:38:12 am Chad Perrin wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 08:16:28PM -0800, Kendall Shaw wrote:
>>> Do you have a kvm switch that does mouse and keyboard emulation  
>>> and know
>>> that it works with freebsd?
>>>
>>> I have an iogear kvm switch from around the last time I asked this
>>> question here years back, that has usually worked with linux,  
>>> netbsd,
>>> openbsd, macos and windows. Back then to work with freebsd, each  
>>> time I
>>> switched away and back I would login remotely and issue a command  
>>> to get
>>> freebsd to recognize the keyboard again.
>>>
>>> The newer version of my kvm switch says it has mouse and keyboard
>>> emulation, but I can't get a straight answer out of them if that  
>>> means
>>> the OS can tell that they keyboard has disconnected or not. Do you  
>>> know?
>>> Or do you know of a KVM switch, that does that and is suitable for  
>>> an
>>> impoverished person's home computing needs?
>>>
>>> Also, I read someone's comment on newegg that the mouse emulation  
>>> only
>>> emulates 2 buttons. Do you know if that is true?
>
> I am using a Trendnet TK-207 USB switch and it works very well with  
> my system.
> It switches between FreeBSD and Vista, and I use a zBoard keyboard  
> with my
> mouse plugged in through the keyboard.  I don't have any problems  
> with this
> KVM, it works greaat.
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:13:27 -0800
> From: "Jaybee Bambilla via RT" <support@aebc.com>
> Subject: [Trouble Ticket #190389] Resolved: freebsd-questions Digest,
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:17 +0100 (CET)
> From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <20090121141701.C26218@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
>>> portsnap
>>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>>>> tool
>>>> can do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the  
>> portsnap
>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>
>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as  
>> well.
>> There
>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)  
>> first."
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to  
>> upgrade,)
>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:23:57 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121132357.BA62C140A0@karpathos.uni5.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>      kern.version is small part only of output uname command   uname  
> command concatane KERN_OSTYPE, KERN_HOSTNAME,
>   KERN_OSRELEASE,&nb   output.
>   I hope I've he   Trober
>   trober@trober.com
>   -
>   -
>   -
>   -
>   -
>
>   ----- Mensagem Original -----
>
>
>   Para: [2]Trober
>
>   Cc: [3]questions@freebsd.org
>
>   Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De 2009
>   Assunto: Re: source of uname informa
>     Trober :
>>>  Am I cor     the
>>> &     >
>>  I believe "YES", ba     >   [1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/s 
>>      rc/usr.bin/uname/uname.c
>>
>>  See "= NATIVE_SY     KERN_VERSION)", on
>>  sou     >
>>  I hope I've helped.
>     It do     Next question:
>     Can someone explain this:
>     huff@jerusalem&     kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0:       
> 2009
>        huff@jerusalem.litterat     us.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ 
> JERUSALEM
>     huff@jerusalem>> uname -a<     7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0- 
> CURRENT     2009     huff@jerusalem.     litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/ 
> src/sys/JERUSALEM  i386
>     Rober     _______________________________________________
>     [4]freebsd-questions@fr     [5]http://lists.freebsd.o     rg/ 
> mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>     To unsubscribe, send any mail      "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org 
> "
>
> References
>
>   1. 3D"mailto:roberthuff@rcn.com   2. 3D"mailto:trober@trober.com"
>   3. 3D"mailto:questions@freebsd.org"
>   4. file://localhost/tmp/3D   5. 3D"http://lists.freebsd.org/mai
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:34:04 -0500
> From: Jerry <gesbbb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121083404.5ff1f70c@scorpio>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:44 -0500
> Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>>>   I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated
>>>   to the latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9
>>>   recently?
>>
>> 	This was discussed within the last 2-3 weeks, either here or on
>> ports@.  Check the archives.
>> 	If this is important, you can always volunteer to help the
>> Perl-porting team.
>
> I subscribe to the port@ list as well as this one obviously and I do
> not remember seeing that article. I will keep looking.
>
> -- 
> Jerry
> gesbbb@yahoo.com
>
> To stay young requires unceasing cultivation
> of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods.
>
> 	Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love"
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:37:22 -0000
> From: "Graeme Dargie" <arab@tangerine-army.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: Motherboard support
> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F78973929560F@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Well I spent a little more time having a look in the bios
>
> Here are the results from various settings and a potential solution.
>
> SATA controller in Native IDE mode
> All drives show as IDE at the POST summary screen on boot
>
> In FreeBSD
> SATA Ports 0-3 The disks show
> SATA Ports 4&5 No disks show
>
> Dmesg shows the following
>
> ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502IJ 1AA01113> at ata2-master SATA300
> ad6: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata3-master  
> SATA300
> ad8: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata4-master  
> SATA300
> ad10: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata5-master  
> SATA300
>
> SATA Controller in AHCI Mode
> All drives show up on RAID Controller POST summary screen
>
> In FreeBSD
> SATA Ports 0-5 now show disks connected
>
> Dmesg shows the following
>
> ad4: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD502IJ 1AA01113> at ata2-master SATA300
> ad6: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata3-master  
> SATA300
> ad8: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata4-master  
> SATA300
> ad10: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata5-master  
> SATA300
> ad12: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata6-master  
> SATA300
> ad14: 476940MB <Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 GM4OA5CA> at ata7-master  
> SATA300
>
> I have read there have been problems with the realtek 8169/8111c NIC
> card on some systems with under FreeBSD, but I cant seem to find a
> solution to this.
>
> Regards
>
> Graeme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Da Rock [mailto:rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au]
> Sent: 21 January 2009 10:36
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Motherboard support
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 22:58 +0000, Graeme Dargie wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have built a machine with a Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2, running Freebsd
>> 7.1. For the most part it is fine but I do have two problems
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)       The NIC a realtek 8111C keeps giving watchdog timeout
> messages
>> and the link state changes from up to down and back to up again.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)       The two hard disks that are attached to the sata raid
>> controller are not seen by Freebsd, the raid card is set to native  
>> ide
>> as I want to use ZFS rather than the onboard raid system and all the
>> drives are present at post. I understand this motherboard uses a
> AMD740
>> chipset and has 740 northbridge and a SB700 southbridge.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas tips pointers would be most welcome
>
> I'm not sure about the NIC, but I don't think the native ide or sata
> control matters in terms of zfs (I could be wrong, and please  
> correct me
> if so experts). The sata controller should recognize the disks with or
> without raid, which freebsd should recognize then install on. I use  
> sata
> in this mode on my systems, and freebsd works fine. Any software raid
> wouldn't care then as long as freebsd itself recognizes the drives.
>
> HTH
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:39:57 +0000
> From: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121133957.4aec8fef@gumby.homeunix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:06:50 -0500
> Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>
>> 	Can someone explain this:
>>
>> huff@jerusalem>> sysctl kern.version
>> kern.version: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 20 10:40:57 EST 2009
>>    huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM
>> huff@jerusalem>> uname -a
>> FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0:
>>
>
> Do you have any UNAME_* variables set in the environment?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:55:59 +0000
> From: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121135559.656e37e9@gumby.homeunix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:17 +0100 (CET)
> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>
>> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>
>
> It's certainly supposed to, the man page says it does, fetch and
> phttpget are both supposed to support proxies, and there's support in
> the script for seeding the random selection of servers from the proxy
> name.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:57:37 -0500
> From: William Gordon Rutherdale <will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca>
> Subject: Re: Perl: Why not updated to latest version 5.10.0
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <497729D1.20508@utoronto.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> As a newcomer to freebsd and a long time Perl user, this was one of  
> the
> first things I noticed.  5.8.8 as distributed on freebsd 7.1 is
> extremely old.
>
> -Will
>
> Jerry wrote:
>> I was wondering if anyone can tell me why Perl was not updated to the
>> latest stable release; i.e. 5.10.0 rather than 5.8.9 recently? It
>> appears that some ports are having problems with this odd version
>> update; i.e., "/news/inn" and possibly "/mail/mailscanner" as  
>> examples.
>>
>> With the latest version of Perl having been released over a year ago,
>> it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to waste the time to  
>> port
>> an older version.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:38:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: "William Bentley" <William@futurecis.com>
> Subject: pam_start error
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<4479cd61ae3c5428930a1c670c7661cd.squirrel@secure.futurecis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am currently running FreeBSD 7.1-Release and have run into a problem
> that I nor google can find a solution too. I get the following  
> errors upon
> boot:
>
> in openpam_load_module(): no /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so
> pam_start:system error
>
> I have reinstalled the ldap client and checked all config files. I  
> have
> also compared it to my other systems that are authenticating against  
> the
> ldap server and they are ok. I do not believe this is an ldap issue  
> though
> because I am not even able to login as root at the console. I have
> verified that the pam_ldap.so file is in place and all permissions and
> file sizes are correct.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:00:31 -0200
> From: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121140032.B525F140B1@karpathos.uni5.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Wow! Good question!
>
> Sorry, I had not seen the difference between 7 and 8 in uname and  
> sysctl output. Sorry.
>
> What your /usr/obj/usr/src/include/vers.h file say in:
>
> SCCSSTR
> VERSTR
> RELSTR
> char ostype
> char osrelease
> int osreldate
> kern_ident
>
> Thanks.
>
> Trober
> trober@trober.com
> -
> -
> -
> -
> -
>
>
>
>
> ----- Mensagem Original -----
> De: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Para: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Data: Quarta, 21 De Janeiro De 2009 10:39
> Assunto: Re: source of uname information
>
>>
>> Trober writes:
>>
>>>   kern.version is small part only of output uname command.
>>>
>>>   uname command concatane KERN_OSTYPE, KERN_HOSTNAME,
>>>   KERN_OSRELEASE,&nb= sp;KERN_VERSION (not in this order) to show
>>>   output.
>>
>> 	The question is:
>> 	Why do the sysctls say one thing, and uname another?
>>
>>
>> 					Robert Huff
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:36:38 +0800
> From: Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Cc: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>,
> 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<910c4cb0901210636o717956afrbb1af2b2da6df9e@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Thank you. I have checked out the shell script for mirroring. I read  
> the
> notes in the script. My company may have a few user of portsnap. But  
> they
> usually complain about the portsnap mirror on the internet is so  
> slow. My
> company doesn't have a proxy, it seems to be using NAT. So if I  
> change the
> interval of running the mirror script to a few hours, it should not  
> consume
> lots of existing mirrors bandwidth?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Vincent Hoffman  
> <vince@unsane.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror /var/db/ 
>>> portsnap
>>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>>>> tool
>>>> can do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the  
>> portsnap
>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>
>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as  
>> well.
>> There
>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while updating a
>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)  
>> first."
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to  
>> upgrade,)
>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>>>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:52:16 +0000
> From: Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Is there any tools can build a mirror of portsnap?
> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Razor <fblist@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <497736A0.4060000@unsane.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> if portsnap could use proxies - it would be simple. but it cant
>>
> The manpage suggests you could,
> "If you wish to use portsnap to keep a large number of machines up to
> date, you may wish to set up a caching HTTP proxy.  Since portsnap
>         uses fetch(1) to download updates, setting the HTTP_PROXY
> environment
>         variable will direct it to fetch updates from the given proxy.
> This
>         is much more efficient than mirroring the files on the  
> portsnap
>         server, since the vast majority of files are not needed by  
> any par-
>         ticular client."
>
> I havent tried this though.
>
> Vince
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>> simply do portsnap in one place and use rsync to mirror
>>>> /var/db/portsnap
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Razor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>  I want to build a mirror server of portsnap in my company. But I
>>>>> couldn't
>>>>> find any tools either in ports-mgmt or in google. So is there a  
>>>>> tool
>>>>> can do
>>>>> this?
>>>>>
>>> There is a script in the freebsd cvs repository to mirror the  
>>> portsnap
>>> servers, but from the README with it.
>>>
>>> "this is not an invitation to start running a portsnap mirror as  
>>> well.
>>> There
>>> is nothing to stop you from mirroring from portsnap[12].freebsd.org,
>>> but since mirroring consumes ~5GB/month of bandwidth while  
>>> updating a
>>> single machine consumes ~5MB/month of bandwidth, adding unnecessary
>>> mirrors is likely to increase rather than decrease the load on the
>>> official mirrors.  If in doubt, talk to me (cperciva@FreeBSD.org)
>>> first."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So if you think its worth it (you have 1000 or so clients to  
>>> upgrade,)
>>> go look in the cvs repository under projects.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:00:46 -0500
> From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
> Cc: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, "Patrick M. Hausen"
> 	<hausen@punkt.de>,	stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121150046.GA61468@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45:28AM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen  
>>>> <hausen@punkt.de> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By  
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1  
>>>>>> savedlabel)
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>>
>>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>>
>>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>>
>>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really  
>>> written
>>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the  
>>> system boot
>>> from it OK?
>>>
>>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes after
>>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted  
>>> backwards
>>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>>
>>> ////jerry
>>
>> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there really
>> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a  
>> disk
>> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
>> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last from
>> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
>> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
>> (da0s1), everything but root.
>
> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later
> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
>
> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.   You really
> only need to use the mount point anyway most of the time.  So, if
> the mount point addresses the partition you want to with that name,
> then you should have no problem.
>
> You could switch it around using bsdlabel, but I don't think the
> risk would be worth the negligible gain.   But, do as you wish.
>
> ////jerry
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>> --
>>>>> punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>>>>> Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>>>>> info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>>>>> Gf: J���rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ===========
>>>> Eduardo Meyer
>>>> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
>>>> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org 
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ===========
>> Eduardo Meyer
>> pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com
>> profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:11:37 +0100 (CET)
> From: Pieter Donche <Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be>
> Subject: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input
> To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.63.0901211559550.28548@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Installed FreeBSD7.0-amd on a Supermicro system that has an
> IPMI module (=Remote server management through webbrowser (Java  
> appl.))
>
> After installing Xorg and kde3, when connecting through the IPMI,
> the KDM login manager shows its login window. Keyboard input works,  
> but
> mouse input does not (the mouse pointer moves, but clicking on e.g.
> the 'Menu' button in KDM login window does nothing)
>
> (the IPMI console window shows in the bottom right corner a keyboard
> and mouse icon, indicating that both should be available)
>
> Also, after some time the screen gets black and reports 'No signal'
>
> I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a FreeBSD ASCII console login:
> prompt.
>
> Another Ctrl-ALt-F9 gets me back to KDE3 login window (keyboard but
> no mouse input accepted)
>
> what can be wrong and how to remedy?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:55:51 +0200
> From: alex <alx333@gmail.com>
> Subject: ipfw + bridge + pppoe
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<b010ef770901210655k3c05fdbdh95eca7b8b5469907@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi guys!
> Just wondering if any of you know how to filter traffic  
> (PPPOE,TCP,IP) by
> the means of ipfw, on bridge with FreeBSD 7.x installed, in the case  
> when
> all traffic passing through the bridge is encapsulated in PPPOE.
> Thanks.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:27:50 +0100 (CET)
> From: Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG,
> 	jerrymc@msu.edu,	Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <200901211527.n0LFRoGp031740@lurza.secnetix.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
>> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
>> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
>> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later
>> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
>>
>> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
>> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.
>
> The boot process assumes (by default) that the root file
> system is on the "a" partition.  If it isn't, you won't
> be able to boot from that disk, unless you enter the real
> root partition at the boot0 prompt.
>
> So it is really a good idea to switch the partitions in
> the label before putting that disk into production.
>
> Best regards
>   Oliver
>
> -- 
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> b. M.
> Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606,   
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> secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht  
> M���n-
> chen, HRB 125758,  Gesch���ftsf���hrer: Maik Bachmann,  
> Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart
>
> FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr:  http://www.secnetix.de/bsd
>
> "I learned Java 3 years before Python.  It was my language of
> choice.  It took me two weekends with Python before I was more
> productive with it than with Java." -- Anthony Roberts
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:35:35 -0500
> From: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: source of uname information
> To: Trober <trober@trober.com>
> Cc: Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <18807.16583.372061.713345@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Trober writes:
>
>> What your /usr/obj/usr/src/include/vers.h file say in:
>
> 	No such file.
>
> 					Robert Huff
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:13:31 -0200
> From: Patrick Tracanelli <eksffa@freebsdbrasil.com.br>
> Subject: Re: switching bsdlabel's label
> To: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Eduardo Meyer <dudu.meyer@gmail.com>,
> 	questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <49773B9B.4060402@freebsdbrasil.com.br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Jerry McAllister escreveu:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45:28AM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Jerry McAllister  
>>> <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:36:34PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Patrick M. Hausen <hausen@punkt.de 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:24:27PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a certain disk where da0s1a and da0s1d are inverted. By  
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> reason someone labelled root as 'd' and home as 'a'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bsdlabel -n da0s1 > savedabel.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edit savedlabel.txt, switch and restore? (bsdlabel -R da0s1  
>>>>>>> savedlabel)
>>>>>> Why not simply use bsdlabel -e da0s1?
>>>>> Because I didnt know about that? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the hint.
>>>>>
>>>>> However I still have the same doubt. Since basically its the same
>>>>> task, Is it safe do relabel this way?
>>>> Hmmm.  Is there stuff written on the disk.  Is root stuff really  
>>>> written
>>>> on da0s1d and /home stuff really written on da0s1a?   Does the  
>>>> system boot
>>>> from it OK?
>>>>
>>>> Or is it just that the mounts are switched.
>>>> The mount points are not written in to the label.   That comes  
>>>> after
>>>> booting.   If it boots, I wonder if it really is switched on the
>>>> partitions or if it is just that the partitions are mounted  
>>>> backwards
>>>> (probably due to editing /etc/fstab incorrectly).
>>>>
>>>> ////jerry
>>> Hello Patrick, thanks again. Yes, label is switched. Yes there  
>>> really
>>> are stuff on the partitions. No, I dont boot from da0s1d. It is a  
>>> disk
>>> for migration. But the one who partitioned was fooled by Sysinstall
>>> which creates the first label on extra disks as 'd' and the last  
>>> from
>>> the allowed 7 as 'a'. Therefore this server is still booting on the
>>> original disk (ad6s1a) and everything else is mounted in the new one
>>> (da0s1), everything but root.
>>
>> What sysinstall does is assume that the 'a' partition will be
>> used for a root mount and the 'b' partition will be used for swap.
>> Sinc 'c' is reserved, it starts with 'd'.   Then, if you later
>> add an 'a' it will end up being later (higher offset) than the 'd'.
>>
>> I suppose it might confuse a person, but otherwise it is no problem
>> and probably would be best to just leave it that way.   You really
>> only need to use the mount point anyway most of the time.  So, if
>> the mount point addresses the partition you want to with that name,
>> then you should have no problem.
>>
>> You could switch it around using bsdlabel, but I don't think the
>> risk would be worth the negligible gain.   But, do as you wish.
>>
>> ////jerry
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
>>>>>> Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
>>>>>> info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
>>>>>> Gf: J���rgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes, you can do this change anytime you want, since (1) da0s1* are
> unmounted and (2) disk is clean. Therefore I suggest you are in single
> user mode. If you feel unsure, backup the current label scheme with
>
> disklabel da0s1 -n > da0s1.disklabel.bk
>
> You can restore anytime with the Rescue Disk.
>
> Go ahead, no problem.
>
> Sometimes you will really have problem booting from a disk if root is
> not on label 'a'. I believe it can be workarounded, but your will is
> safe, go ahead and switch the labels.
>
> You can always remember the person who did this from sysinstall that
> sysinstall will label as 'a' if the mount point is root (/).
>
> Therefore if someone wants to use sysinstall for labelling in
> production, and wont mount on / since / has the current root, one can
> always fool sysinstall, (C)reating the partition, using / as mpoint  
> and
> mater redefining the (M)ount point to somewhere else, say, to /mnt.
>
> I always relabel this way, never had a problem. TinyBSD sometimes
> relabels this way too, for some PC Engines Wrap boards. Go ahead.
>
> -- 
> Patrick Tracanelli
>
> Tel.: (31) 3516-0800
> 316601@sip.freebsdbrasil.com.br
> http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br
> "Long live Hanin Elias, Kim Deal!"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:47:08 +0100
> From: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
> Subject: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121154708.GA14011@rebelion.Sisis.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>
> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is  
> some better
> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in  
> better human
> readable form... any ideas? thx
>
> 	matthias
> -- 
> Matthias Apitz
> Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH
> Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany
> t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211
> e <matthias.apitz@oclc.org> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/
> b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/
>
> SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen
>> From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion <GabrielleKelley@grungecafe.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Feustel <dfeustel@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121155853.D5A0F8FC26@mx1.freebsd.org>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:47:08PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
>> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
>> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>>
>> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is  
>> some better
>> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in  
>> better human
>> readable form... any ideas? thx
>>
>> 	matthias
>
> Try FireBug, a FireFox plugin documented in _Web Security Testing
> Cookbook_ a book which I highly recommend. It converted me from
> Konqueror to FireFox in about 30 seconds when I found out about
> NoScript, another Firefox extension.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 32
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:21:29 -0500
> From: Steven Kreuzer <skreuzer@exit2shell.com>
> Subject: Re: HTTP proxy which prints HTTP in human readable form
> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <9E235687-8BF4-417E-9CD4-52D317E5B3C9@exit2shell.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've to debug the HTTP traffic between Firefox and some kind of file
>> management server to nail down a problem in the communication between
>> them, perhaps based on the content of the cookies or other HTTP data;
>>
>> ofc, I could watch the connection with tcpdump, but maybe there is
>> some better
>> HTTP-proxy-like tool in the /usr/ports which prints the HTTP in
>> better human
>> readable form... any ideas? thx
>
>
> Take a look at HttpFox, which  monitors and analyzes all incoming and
> outgoing HTTP traffic between the browser and the web servers.
>
> Information available per request includes:
> - Request and response headers
> - Sent and received cookies
> - Querystring parameters
> - POST parameters
> - Response body
>
> Its in ports (www/xpi-httpfox) or you can grab it from
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6647
>
> --
> Steven Kreuzer
> http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:53:49 -1000
> From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
> Subject: Re: Edit user groups
> To: Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121165348.GA13963@lava.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 09:23:32PM -0700, Tim Judd wrote:
>> Clifton Royston wrote:
>>> Good advice given so far (pw is a good tool, direct editing works)  
>>> but
>>> I'd also suggest you consider installing and using sudo; I always
>>> install it on all of my systems and use it probably 10-20 times as
>>> often as su.
>>>
> ...
>> I think sudo is a false sense of security.  If a user trusts another,
>> and give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them?
>
>  Among other reasons, because it allows you to partition privileges
> and give access for specific users (or groups of users) to specific
> accounts only, or to execute only a specific set of commands as root  
> or
> another user.  When I was running a department of technical support
> staff and another group of junior administrators, this ability to  
> limit
> and partition powers was a life-saver.
>
>  I think you mistrust sudo because you do not yet understand it as
> well as su (also essential, but a more blunt instrument.)
>
>> Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead  
>> with
>> a box with sudo installed.  I think it's a very misleading tool.  And
>> not to say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you
>> monitor the sudo source code?
>
>  Rarely, but it's freely available, and thousands if not tens of
> thousands of other programmers and admins have access to it, and do
> check it enough to find the occasional bug.  Same as the source to su,
> or to the OS as a whole; has it never occurred to you there are trust
> issues there as well?
>
>> And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is a
>> SUID bit to root.
>
>  Dude, how do you think su works?
>
>  -- Clifton
>
> -- 
>    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com /  
> cliftonr@lava.net
>       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
> Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting  
> services
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:57:39 +0200
> From: Ghirai <ghirai@ghirai.com>
> Subject: Re: Intel 5100 AGN WiFi
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au>
> Message-ID: <200901211857.39310.ghirai@ghirai.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-15"
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> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:41:23 Da Rock wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:48 +0200, Ghirai wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> After a quick search it appears that Intel 5100 AGN wifi card is not
>>> supported (at least not in RELEASE?).
>>> If so, are there plans, dev. in progress, etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> AFAIK this uses the iwn driver which a group of us is now working on.
>> Backports (testing) exist for 7.1, and there are several references  
>> to
>> them on this list. Use the latest, and post back here with your  
>> results
>> which will help us further the task (/var/log/messages, dmesg, etc).
>>
>> Just to check that this is the driver you need, run a pciconf -lv and
>> post the result back here.
>>
>
> I was shopping for a notebook that has this card, and wanted to make  
> sure.
> I'll post info if i buy it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:14:49 -1000
> From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
> Subject: Re: Filesystem tunning
> To: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <20090121171447.GB13963@lava.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode when a
>> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
>>
>> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device  
>> with a
>> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and
>> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
>>
>> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking will
>> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be
>> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue  
>> booting
>> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will  
>> check
>> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.
>
> Try this:
>
> Set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the
> end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if it's
> OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not.
>  -- Clifton
>
> -- 
>    Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com /  
> cliftonr@lava.net
>       President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
> Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting  
> services
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:20:07 -0800
> From: "Peter Steele" <psteele@maxiscale.com>
> Subject: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<2ACA3DE8F9758A48B8BE2C7A847F91F247A4BB@polaris.maxiscale.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> We have systems that upon initial configuration have no IP addresses
> assigned. Their rc.conf entries look like this:
>
>
>
> ifconfig_nfe0="UP"
>
> ifconfig_nfe1="UP"
>
> cloned_interfaces="lagg0"
>
> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1"
>
> defaultrouter="0.0.0.0"
>
>
>
> The user later runs a tool and specifies the IP address to use for a
> given system. This tool modifies ifconfig and default router lines,  
> e.g.
>
>
>
> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1
> 192.168.17.49 netmask 255.255.240.0"
>
> defaultrouter="192.168.16.1"
>
>
>
> and also executes explicit ifconfig and route add commands that match
> the entries in rc.conf.
>
>
>
> The question is, should we also execute a netif stop/start sequence  
> when
> this IP/router information is assigned? Are there other services that
> should also be stopped/restarted when the IP is set? Ideally, we  
> want to
> avoid having to reboot the box to set the IP as we are doing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:33:00 +0100
> From: Frank Staals <frankstaals@gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: Do I need to run netif stop/start if IP is changed?
> To: Peter Steele <psteele@maxiscale.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <49775C4C.2010305@gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Peter Steele wrote:
>> We have systems that upon initial configuration have no IP addresses
>> assigned. Their rc.conf entries look like this:
>>
>>
>>
>>
> <snip>
>> and also executes explicit ifconfig and route add commands that match
>> the entries in rc.conf.
>>
>>
>>
>> The question is, should we also execute a netif stop/start sequence  
>> when
>> this IP/router information is assigned? Are there other services that
>> should also be stopped/restarted when the IP is set? Ideally, we  
>> want to
>> avoid having to reboot the box to set the IP as we are doing.
>>
>>
> As far as I know you do not have to, changing interface settings with
> ifconfig should be enough. I used to have a script to switch between  
> LAN
> and WLAN on my laptop which used only ifconfig <ip>, route flush and
> route add default <routerip>.  Only thing that comes to mind that  
> could
> go wrong if daemons are configured to listen on a specifc ip instead  
> of
> (default) configs with :<port>.
>
> Regards,
>
> -- 
>
> - Frank
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:43:58 +0100 (CET)
> From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD7+KDE3, IPMI module, no mouse input
> To: Pieter Donche <Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be>
> Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <20090121184341.S26924@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>> IPMI module (=Remote server management through webbrowser (Java  
>> appl.))
>>
>> After installing Xorg and kde3, when connecting through the IPMI,
>> the KDM login manager shows its login window. Keyboard input works,  
>> but mouse
>> input does not (the mouse pointer moves, but clicking on e.g.
>> the 'Menu' button in KDM login window does nothing)
>>
>> (the IPMI console window shows in the bottom right corner a keyboard
>> and mouse icon, indicating that both should be available)
>>
>> Also, after some time the screen gets black and reports 'No signal'
>>
>> I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a FreeBSD ASCII console login:
>> prompt.
>>
>> Another Ctrl-ALt-F9 gets me back to KDE3 login window (keyboard but
>> no mouse input accepted)
>>
>> what can be wrong and how to remedy?
>
> use normal unix tools for remote administration not IPMI
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:25:02 +0100
> From: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Filesystem tunning
> To: Matias Surdi <matiassurdi@gmail.com>,
> 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<720ff42b0901210925h13871dd4kae557680576741a2@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> This should work. I'll try it.
>
> Thanks for the idea
>
> 2009/1/21 Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:04PM +0100, Matias Surdi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to avoid the system going to single user mode  
>>> when a
>>> secondary storage device cannot be mounted?.
>>>
>>> I mean, if all system filesystems are OK, how can set up a device  
>>> with a
>>> custom mount point so that when it's tried to mount at boot time and
>>> fails doesn't cause the system to be in single user mode?
>>>
>>> I know that if in fstab I set the last parameter to "0" checking  
>>> will
>>> not be made at boot time, but instead what I want is the check to be
>>> run, correct any automatically correctable error, and continue  
>>> booting
>>> anyway, despite the result of the check.Later a custom script will  
>>> check
>>> the filesystem and send a mail, for example.
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Set to "noauto" in /etc/fstab, and add a custom script to run at the
>> end of the boot process to check and mount your special device if  
>> it's
>> OK, and do whatever additional processing you want if not.
>> -- Clifton
>>
>> --
>>   Clifton Royston  --  cliftonr@iandicomputing.com /  
>> cliftonr@lava.net
>>      President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
>> Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting  
>> services
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Matias Emanuel Surdi.
> http://lounicoquefaltaba.com.ar
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:01:43 -0700
> From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <20090121180143.GA11062@kokopelli.hydra>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>
>> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure  
>> described
>> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
>
> I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
> import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then  
> move
> them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import  
> them to
> Thunderbird there?
>
> -- 
> Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
> Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
> account of tempests during fair weather."
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>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:37:20 -0800
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transition Questions.
> To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a9f4a3860901211037n1e75a19fl85187aa7ead9656@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>  
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:50:55AM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:
>>>
>>> And, unfortunately, that doesn't help. I think the procedure  
>>> described
>>> by George Davidovich is your best bet.
>>
>> I haven't used Thunderbird in a very long time, but . . . can't you
>> import emails from OE to Thunderbird on the MS Windows system, then  
>> move
>> them from the MS Windows system to the FreeBSD system and import  
>> them to
>> Thunderbird there?
>>
>> --
>> Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
>> Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: "It is a common failing of man not to take
>> account of tempests during fair weather."
>
> I don't know. I haven't used OE in over 10 years.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:47:41 -0700
> From: Steve Franks <bahamasfranks@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Flash for FreeBSD -> GNOME -> Firefox
> To: Grant Peel <gpeel@thenetnow.com>
> Cc: herbert langhans <herbert.raimund@gmx.net>,
> 	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<539c60b90901211047l7efceadeld7896ffcf0c83a4b@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, herbert langhans
> <herbert.raimund@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Hi Grant,
>> here is a full description how to do that:
>> http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl
>
> The info on swfdec on this page appears to be outdated - the swfdec
> homepage quotes a release on 12/21/08, and purportedly works with
> youtube; I'm testing it now myself...
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:51:45 -0800
> From: pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Edit user groups
> To: Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com>
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Akenner <SlackWareWolf@comcast.net>,
> 	Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
> Message-ID:
> 	<57d710000901211051u12ad4ca6ifc5b96046953c4dd@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> <sorry OT>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> and I recommend against sudo because it's very design is a man-in- 
>> the-middle
>> type of scenario, and one typo by the sudo devs can possibly make a  
>> mess out
>> of things.
>>
>> I think sudo makes a lazy admin -- too easy to just run in and hit
>> something.
>>
>> I think sudo is a false sense of security.  If a user trusts  
>> another, and
>> give sudo access, why not give the whole OS to them?
>>
>> Sudo's out there -- don't get me wrong, but you won't catch me dead  
>> with a
>> box with sudo installed.  I think it's a very misleading tool.  And  
>> not to
>> say they do -- but what if the devs put in a keygen...do you  
>> monitor the
>> sudo source code?
>>
>> And if I remember correctly -- the way sudo gets it's work done is  
>> a SUID
>> bit to root.  Those are the devil's eggs that hatch and just cause  
>> havoc.  A
>> rogue CGI calling sudo to do something on the website, buffer  
>> overflow (with
>> php!) and you've gotten rooted.
>>
>> No, no -- I hate sudo for it's own doing.  It's going to eat itself  
>> alive.
>>
>> </rant>  No flames please.
>
> not a flame, but a point of order - you can grant sudo privs to a user
> that does not automatically give them full root/wheel privs.  i recon
> this is something that most admins have had to come across when
> working in a multiuser environment.
>
> what sudo also does provides you is:
> 1) an audit trail of who did what, when with said escalated privs
> 2) a way to give non-wheel users access to run specific commands that
> may require escalted privs
>
> so i'm not really sure why one would want to throw out the baby with
> the bath water, it's just another layer on the onion - and much better
> than giving everyone root access, or requiring the one or two trusted
> users in wheel to executed any program that may require escalated
> privs (rndc reload, apachectl reload come to mind immediately).
>
> -p
>
> -- 
> ~~o0OO0o~~
> Pete Wright
> www.nycbug.org
> NYC's *BSD User Group
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:20:20 -0800
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Firefox and Java?
> To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a9f4a3860901211120v1c48e9f9kd282776751e3a128@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> More info:
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep java
> javavmwrapper-2.3.2 Wrapper script for various Java Virtual Machines
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep jdk
> diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_3 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Can't seem to get this working - trying to use a java client for our
>> SSL VPN appliance, and am getting told by the browser that Java isn't
>> enabled.
>>
>> I see "/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so", so
>> according to the googling I've been doing that's correct. Any  
>> thoughts
>> on how to proceed?
>>
>> grimsqueaker-bsd# uname -a
>> FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE  
>> #7:
>> Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>> amd64
>>
>> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep firefox
>> firefox-3.0.5_1,1   Web browser based on the browser portion of  
>> Mozilla
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:11:58 -0800
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
> Subject: Firefox and Java?
> To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a9f4a3860901211111r75279e74k1a103f8c8581a7e6@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Can't seem to get this working - trying to use a java client for our
> SSL VPN appliance, and am getting told by the browser that Java isn't
> enabled.
>
> I see "/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so", so
> according to the googling I've been doing that's correct. Any thoughts
> on how to proceed?
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# uname -a
> FreeBSD grimsqueaker-bsd.pigfarm.org 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #7:
> Sun Jan 11 21:12:44 PST 2009     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
>
> grimsqueaker-bsd# pkg_info | grep firefox
> firefox-3.0.5_1,1   Web browser based on the browser portion of  
> Mozilla
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:44:44 -0500
> From: FreeBSD <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>
> Subject: Re: Advice for dump/restore over SSH
> To: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> Cc: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>,	"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"
> 	<freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Message-ID: <49777B2C.70901@optiksecurite.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Odhiambo Washington a ��crit :
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl
>> <mailto:rsmith@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>    On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 05:43:56PM -0500, Freebsd wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds pretty interesting to me but i couldn't test right now. As nc
>>> is in /usr/bin how will i not face the same problem as with ssh? Can
>>> you point me to a freebsd live cd that has nc included?
>>
>>    The 7.0-RELEASE livefs CD that I had lying around has nc on it.  
>> As does
>>    the 6.1-RELEASE disc 1 that I also found. So I think all install/ 
>> lifefs
>>    images have nc. I suggest that you get e.g. 7.1-RELEASE-i386- 
>> livefs.iso
>>    or 7.1-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso (depending on your hardware
>>    architecture) from your nearest ftp mirror.
>>
>>
>> Hi Roland,
>>
>> While still on this topic...
>> Now that FreeBSD went DVD, does one still need the
>> X.Y-RELEASE-i386{amd64}-livefs.iso still, or the DVD had a complete
>> livefs functionality as well?
>
> It worked perfectly with the DVD of 7.1-RELEASE for i386.
>
> Thanks a lot Roland for your precises answers. You're saving me a  
> lot of
> time.
>
> Martin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:35:06 +0200
> From: Valdis Ziedi?? <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
> Subject: change root pasword
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<ad035300901211135l51ea8d71n20b139eca7eb5444@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> hi,
> i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with  
> freebsd!
> someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
> pasword! i'll be thankfull!
>
> i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!
>
> best regart valdis
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:03:04 -0500
> From: APseudoUtopia <apseudoutopia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: change root pasword
> To: Valdis Ziedi?? <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<27ade5280901211203g728fbfa9k74ebafb80a21887e@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Valdis Ziedi����
> <valdis.ziedins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi,
>> i'm new your product user! my first admin leave new server with  
>> freebsd!
>> someone change root pasword can you help me step by step change this
>> pasword! i'll be thankfull!
>>
>> i'm now studing your product but if you can help me it would be nice!
>>
>> best regart valdis
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
> man passwd
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:08:16 +0200
> From: KES <kes-kes@yandex.ru>
> Subject: 'top' shows wrong CPU usage
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <571280828.20090121220816@yandex.ru>
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> Hello, Freebsd-questions.
>
> top shows often nonsense in CPU usage of a process, but totals are OK
> and it seems that WCPU and CPU has no differences in results
>
> top -S
> last pid: 66182;  load averages:  2.51,  2.15,  2.03             up  
> 10+23:40:14  22:05:41
> 798 processes: 6 running, 772 sleeping, 1 zombie, 18 waiting, 1 lock
> CPU:  4.4% user,  0.0% nice, 14.8% system, 16.7% interrupt, 64.0% idle
> Mem: 264M Active, 60M Inact, 147M Wired, 6968K Cache, 60M Buf, 9888K  
> Free
> Swap: 2048M Total, 1903M Used, 145M Free, 92% Inuse
>
>  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU  
> COMMAND
>   11 root          1 171 ki31     0K     8K RUN    104.1H 88.48%  
> idle: cpu0
> 66178 firebird      1  49    0 23120K  5828K select   0:00  1.37%  
> fb_inet_server
> 66159 firebird      1  48    0 23120K  5760K select   0:01  1.17%  
> fb_inet_server
> 5156 root          1  44    0  9024K   544K select  57:39  0.68% snmpd
> 66182 root          1  44    0  4556K  2608K RUN      0:00  0.68% top
> 66147 root          1   8    0  3124K   840K nanslp   0:00  0.59%  
> monitord
> 66138 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5736K select   0:01  0.49%  
> fb_inet_server
> 75745 www           1  44    0 24628K  9500K select   5:05  0.29%  
> python2.5
> 66180 firebird      1  46    0 23120K  5852K select   0:00  0.10%  
> fb_inet_server
>
>
> #top -S -C
> last pid: 66209;  load averages:  2.13,  2.10,  2.02             up  
> 10+23:41:07  22:06:34
> 814 processes: 6 running, 788 sleeping, 1 zombie, 18 waiting, 1 lock
> CPU:  9.3% user,  0.0% nice, 13.4% system, 12.8% interrupt, 64.5% idle
> Mem: 269M Active, 56M Inact, 148M Wired, 12M Cache, 60M Buf, 3700K  
> Free
> Swap: 2048M Total, 1903M Used, 145M Free, 92% Inuse
>
>  PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME    CPU  
> COMMAND
>   11 root          1 171 ki31     0K     8K RUN    104.1H 92.29%  
> idle: cpu0
> 66138 firebird      1  49    0 23120K  5556K select   0:01  1.46%  
> fb_inet_server
> 66180 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5612K select   0:01  0.59%  
> fb_inet_server
> 66209 root          1  44    0  4556K  2556K RUN      0:00  0.59% top
> 66179 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5624K select   0:01  0.49%  
> fb_inet_server
> 5156 root          1  44    0  9024K   544K select  57:39  0.39% snmpd
> 66147 root          1   8    0  3124K   840K nanslp   0:01  0.39%  
> monitord
> 66178 firebird      1  44    0 23120K  5584K select   0:01  0.20%  
> fb_inet_server
>   12 root          1 -44    -     0K     8K WAIT   126.8H  0.00%  
> swi1: net
>   42 root          1 -68    -     0K     8K -      219:53  0.00%  
> dummynet
>
> -- 
> KES                          mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru
>
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