From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 23 22:27:50 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5247224AB39 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@karels.net) Received: from mail.karels.net (mail.karels.net [216.160.39.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48Qfw35h5Fz3yYW; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@karels.net) Received: from mail.karels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.karels.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 01NMRfMn085481; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:27:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@karels.net) Message-Id: <202002232227.01NMRfMn085481@mail.karels.net> To: Ed Maste cc: freebsd-stable stable From: Mike Karels Reply-to: mike@karels.net Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 23 Feb 2020 15:34:13 -0500. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <85479.1582496860.1@mail.karels.net> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:27:40 -0600 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48Qfw35h5Fz3yYW X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mike@karels.net designates 216.160.39.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mike@karels.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mike@karels.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.160.39.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[karels.net]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.24)[ip: (-7.37), ipnet: 216.160.36.0/22(-3.73), asn: 209(-0.05), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:216.160.36.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:27:50 -0000 Ed Maste wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 12:48, Gerard E. Seibert > wrote: > > > > Until they squash that bug, they should not be in a rush to push out > > the door another defective model. > Unfortunately complaining that there's a bug in 12.0 or 12.1 or > providing additional reports of this will do nothing to help resolve > the issue. I can suggest two ways folks can help get this resolved: > build and test kernels (with guidance from interested developers) to > bisect and identify the offending commit/test potential patches, or > make a system available to willing developer(s). In this case (a USB failure), I bisected the problem some months ago. The offending commit was an ACPI update. I have not yet "downgraded" to 11.3, but I will when I have enough time. Mike