From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 23:11:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAF01008DFC for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa32.google.com (mail-vk1-xa32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9889D75700 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa32.google.com with SMTP id l186so791417vke.0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:11:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XTYvAUUeKAKgCsvrWbJ7+kLqOs8Fq1XBw7kIcWF3jEk=; b=BQBCq7TJWKtiiRHPc4i0DuHLCphru70IXgcEW+KqXtC+A7g3WfW6+jcgzE92dn3ki/ vohNgXgpgCKzNdZTw85DSw0FiTqKp+mo8oWeCnkZmsgY2Mt8mRV3loK+leuame2LB7H3 rX+j1UZpyO+7/8CBzPiCBWifbdp0UEL8+DbPnEfSTORBCBj4ihToMrp+kSaQ2dacKhFe fvhYwEnTEN9ApIGy0lTb3OgfQs81TWo6pJyS0GN3S7JLDuC1FKpAs6kAYVpqOtYHzwVb iMZdNl3x+0ub5vzfqlLxK+5t0yb/wUK+DwdSZEW8tz7lEy16QaYwA9jhQ0CJH0mA737D AoXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XTYvAUUeKAKgCsvrWbJ7+kLqOs8Fq1XBw7kIcWF3jEk=; b=FNoBaaUyRBt8MrWo34D5MeXDcIYHSj36rAOs78GCbqHpvU0WuAI0bBkIU3c8rKOnDb Mj2kzQSgT96PiySjHRRxrpB3gSmml2DBePSytCVsTpceGotaoL/IeyhiQZ54qxzA1IuM 8M+108mbHAnHp+56rC0TFTFOR2H4J6eZfm/4oyQ26uXZTxA4qRq23W9xiTaAWz2pAVH9 KjrefnThEZt1Z/qKdoUv5Gq3lKADKE1EJbTsKeA6lmTTnMqW1SKxoCRLWobuuPzsqFed yOcqZHZ6qasy1PNbX7O4yA4aSmQHOCX0YfrbJq/wpW+jYsJYQOD9vIAH7Rvr4A93g//T 9j0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKsmalS+ug8kNSnYSKsvcXLk6hGGIeHRYZ7YJ+RHUMBsPgH/C2w 3w+d4MBteXf4nvHM0ZA3oBJ8fplWg+9ZfjtZHKm/U4ujTpw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fmkXu0yxS0QqOmkMLS/zBfhZ99AzjvjMCSYZy0FY32znG5ZHH3Aawnis+F22Q/dfkkXT0RYuxRr1WuTlorljg= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:d803:: with SMTP id p3mr122934vkg.9.1540336265884; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <15FCEA6B-C017-40C5-8193-8C7AA3F563CC@mail.sermon-archive.info> <201810232155.w9NLtM4Y080783@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201810232155.w9NLtM4Y080783@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:10:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: bc979@lafn.org, freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Net , Brooks Davis , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:11:07 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:57 PM Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Doug Hardie wrote: > > I have a number of production servers that only have bge and I don't see > that listed in either category. None of them are running FreeBSD 12 yet as > it has not been released. Also there are some with rl. Those are add-on > boards so they could be changed, but would require extensive effort as the > machines are about a 4 hour drive from here and would require > reconfiguration (an error prone process when you are tired). > > bge is also used by my main laptop with current Oct 15 18:33 > /boot/kernel/kernel > > bge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=c019b > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > > Doug, I think bge must be safe as man 4 bge: > "bge - Broadcom BCM57xx/BCM590x Gigabit/Fast Ethernet driver" > & Brooks proposal was ... "a plan to deprecate most 10/100 Ethernet > drivers" > Indeed. https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md shows bge is not on the list to go. Warner