From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 28 02:50:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDD216A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DF343D46; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from zaphod.softweyr.com (cpe-69-75-218-19.san.rr.com [69.75.218.19]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D60B100497; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:50:55 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr.COM To: Joshua Tinnin Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:50:54 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <6587631D.5034AB43.0F75C5EC@netscape.net> <200412271330.05504@zaphod.softweyr.com> <200412271403.12158.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200412271403.12158.krinklyfig@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412271850.54926@zaphod.softweyr.com> cc: grog@freebsd.org cc: core@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to shut down this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:50:56 -0000 On Monday 27 December 2004 14:03, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Monday 27 December 2004 01:30 pm, Wes Peters > wrote: > > > > The cool part is, we don't need somebody who can answer questions, or > > even necessarily tell the user where to get them answered. What we > > really need is somebody to watch for threads that are veering off > > into non-newbies-list topics and redirect those. > > > > I don't know that it really requires official moderation, though we > > could do that if the list members don't respond appropriately to > > suggestions by the nanny(ies). > > Well, I agree that this would likely be the best of both worlds: having > moderation without having a moderator, per se, but it seems to me like > the frequency of newbies asking for technical help on this list > indicates a lack of clear communication of the group charter. I realize > newbies are less inclined (in general) to read instructions, but > perhaps this in itself is reason to make the charter more clear to > people before they join. One of my ideas is to come up with a short, succint version of the newbies list charter and to have it appended to every message, as a list signature. Would any of you "frequent newbie flyers" like to have a go at the text for this? This gentle reminder should inform them to seek help on technical questions on the -questions list, and refer to the newbies list charter via URL. *You* of all people should know where to find the official list charter. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com