From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 24 13:43:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2829F37B40B for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8OKheR16906; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109242043.f8OKheR16906@ptavv.es.net> To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: Joe Abley , Juha Saarinen , "'Andrew Reilly'" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 127/8 continued In-reply-to: Your message of "24 Sep 2001 13:00:58 PDT." Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:43:40 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) > Date: 24 Sep 2001 13:00:58 -0700 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Joe Abley writes: > > > RFC 1122, "Requirements for Internet Hosts -- Communication Layers" > > provides guidance for the interpretation of any address within > > 127/8 -- it says such addresses are for use as "internal host loopback > > addresses". RFC 1122 is STD 3, an Official Internet Protocol Standard, > > and hence is worth complying with. > > Are IANA/IETF/Internet standards EVER applicable to what goes on inside > our computers? Or just to the data crossing our Internet interfaces? > (Not rhetorical - I'm wondering.) No. This is explicitly stated in an early RFC (although I have no idea which one any more). If it does not leave a system, no standard RFC is relevant. That is one reason that the handling of 127/8 is limited to the statement that it should not appear as a destination of any packet leaving the system. So I guess the issue of responding to 127.1.1.1 is not a standards issue. It's an implementation detail and Linux is as correct as Solaris which is as correct as any other. But letting a packet to a 127/8 address leave the system is clearly wrong and Joe's PR will fix it nicely. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message