From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 11 16: 7:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF9615216 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@uk.radan.com) Received: from [158.152.75.22] (helo=uk.radan.com) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hLcC-000JMn-0C; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:07:08 +0000 Organisation: Radan Computational Ltd., Bath, UK. Phone: +44-1225-320320 Fax: +44-1225-320311 Received: from marder-1. (rasnt-1 [193.114.228.211]) by uk.radan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id AAA00367; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:06:31 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id AAA00605; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:06:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:06:09 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Terry Lambert Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Europe says yes to spam Message-ID: <19990512000609.A254@marder-1> References: <3737F24F.70BE6FCA@uk.radan.com> <199905111957.MAA16922@usr04.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199905111957.MAA16922@usr04.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 07:57:35PM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 07:57:35PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > There is also another law being proposed by the EU which would make > > the local caching of Web pages by ISP's effectively illegal (something > > related to copyright IIRC). > > You're not copying it, you are storing and forwarding it. > I know, but obviously MEPs don't know what caching is, see below. I've found the article now (PC World, May '99). Seems to be the same bit of legislation: "Labour MEP Christine Oddy is trying to overturn a proposal that threatens to bring the Web to a standstill. Euro MPs voted to ban the unauthorized copying of material as it is being transmitted over the Internet. But the measure, part of a proposed directive on e-commerce, would have outlawed the caching of popular material on local servers to speed access and minimize network traffic. Oddy is to table an amendment to get around the problem. The move was welcomed by the European Internet Service Providers Association. A spokeman said: `I'm pretty sure that Euro MPs did not really know what they were doing. A definition of caching could undo some of the damage done in the vote on copyright'. Oddy also plans an amendment to restrict junk e-mail" > I would really laugh if somone got a cease-and-desist order against > British Telecom for storing voice mail without the permission of > the caller, using such a law... not that I'm suggesting someone do > this if the morons actually pass the law. > Nothing would surprise me. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message