From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 28 11:49:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599D7BEBCFB for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA45317A2 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1475063352; bh=qmEkmbOIDStlSxEQqhrxFU3CpBAfK59xzE5zPF9Fb/Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=RNFdMk+UbHlklytKhPxwjPwbqBed3nncj6gANK/zlCkXxx2Vgwh70MbvxvsN1sLWyvYHwDH5UxLOuruZ6uy209np1d4bMquYkK/W7xj2FuWRbmk8AZksO3pGGAZoW+RNWTwJGurG4VwiJRgziGCZ/zYySMj18LCwWs0GU5D80k23FlWPNw0eiB4FK9beLfKyZ/o4y39mb1U00M3zD8Eembehe+cXEfYXsAOE7EV348PsEdw/mwrwSwXWsXuuVv7UZGLq5vXOOZXtruurksNPhP88FEJsAmLggP7RZW7q27LVt9t12e50nBYKLlJsIyt5jsBea+VWhW1+q6DCE3yuXg== Received: from [212.82.98.55] by nm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2016 11:49:12 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.85] by tm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2016 11:49:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp122.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2016 11:49:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 843804.94612.bm@smtp122.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: u89mO74VM1k0x7BknFdUDKznb3KHQvPe9XrMDieL9Zw2vs8 5G0os4dM8BthoLdpQaFafDs2nutROALQnCggUE5xq4OU3mA22WaH2hspbwM7 rhUzTJF7Ihu4JjUtVtKdH4yvgUTw1J4tTRit6jgXzBfgZ78HSgE6gbYcoMS0 88LlQee4CdJ4Aoqv3cuT0z_1xq0joa9Z0nxjTPDscApc1Gns9NRoa3W3awSR 1UPVNLqTwP_iWB89cUyJF0Dq9sJzjnWFF_s78R5OIAZ_AHhuQ8n2RJ1yEEMO DOsfMh1mHc.yAY3NWPlSCsxtwNrPlizyjitLns_3mpCu1X8Av59bPRFlfzHi E5qygAfGubXyLW0gB4QXpK93eiTv5YyZb4FddpHCOCP_ntCNQhoONO8dHUqd ThV.hUX9wF1mnbEsR92j.KtkSwYFgk2Z4I_6Jr81wEJn6QvFN95jq3_tprgb R5EQL.FDBdXJdP.0MD2EECCmkFbTMDEICP8keJalLbHHMq6ma33fchszsYRn ZTwPD.tX9gNe2.XWrJIhGiI4mueeSSRbe98oeZdFLWoScLjLHG3_tYxe4Zxn eJKs2UdbAwoBprqvcta7AN9RUpCuk X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:49:11 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 version in future ? Message-ID: <20160928134911.1a564ab9@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <20160928133121.4751ffe7@moonstudio> References: <0D6BF663-5C95-4625-B412-00E14EF97986@FreeBSD.org> <35.AF.06698.BEF4AE75@dnvrco-oedge03> <20160927134158.74c11036@archlinux.localdomain> <20160928091109.7aa95c9d@moonstudio> <20160928105420.7b1d117f@moonstudio> <20160928190022.5c06f809@X220.alogt.com> <20160928133121.4751ffe7@moonstudio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0-2-ge48b73 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-ubuntustudio-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:49:16 -0000 On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:31:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:00:22 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>just take the last generation of plain 32-Bit-Atoms. They are really >>low power much less power hungry than e.g. an i7 of the same epoch. >>But it still is likely that the Atoms consume more energy to fulfil a >>specific task. > >This is a ridiculous comparison. > >>With other words, it is a complex problem with no clear answer. > >It's neither complex, nor is there an unclear answer. > >"The performance of a single-core Atom is about half that of a Pentium >M of the same clock rate. For example, the Atom N270 (1.60 GHz) found >in many netbooks such as the Eee PC can deliver around 3300 MIPS and >2.1 GFLOPS in standard benchmarks,[34] compared to 7400 MIPS and 3.9 >GFLOPS for the similarly clocked (1.73 GHz) Pentium M 740." - >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom#Performance > >http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/core-i7-processor.html >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Core_i7_3 Sorry, wrong link, same epoch is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Core_i7_2 what I mentioned still remains true ;). >"Core i7 Sandy-Bridge, 3,4 GHz, 4 Kerne 102,5 GFLOPS" - >https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_Point_Operations_Per_Second#Rechenleistung_von_Computersystemen >The German "102,5 GFLOPS" are English "102.5 GFLOPS" > >If you compare 32 bit Atoms, then better compare them with 64 bit Atoms >and not with completely unrelated CPUs, that are way beyond the Atom's >processing power. > >Regards, >Ralf