Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 09:57:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <hackers@freebsd.org>, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>, Arne Steinkamm <freebsd-arch@steinkamm.com> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] Disallowing read() of a directory fd Message-ID: <CANCZdfoXnvUQNqOa6J7VcxrBpU7cP4MzXM=ip8t0wvJhE4PC2w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <202005151504.04FF423p040952@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <CACNAnaFp2d1E%2B5Vz9qdf_hXqtpHTnx_gkNQvVLcfjwNCs4Jjzg@mail.gmail.com> <202005151504.04FF423p040952@fire.js.berklix.net>
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On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:04 AM Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: > kevans@ wasted FreeBSD time with threat of change at 2 days notice, > for an issue unchanged since 1972. The rush was immature. > > kevans@ should retract his threat of forced urgent change, or expect > core@ be asked to remove his commit bit while FreeBSD considers > _un-rushed_, allowing sufficient time for all to consider options, > & to warn users in RELNOTES of any potential future change. > Threats are not tolerated in this project. This hyperbolic response has gone on long enough. Please stop and treat your fellow committers with respect and a certain level of professionalism. He's done none of the nefarious things you've said (I've known about this changes for days if not weeks as he socialized it, for example). He doesn't deserve this level of grief over a proposal. It's a request for comments, not a request for abuse and nasty behaviour. This whole thread has gone toxic / hyperbolic over a non-issue. You should have stopped reading directories in 1983 when readdir was introduced because UFS broke ls, find, du, etc. At best, it's a nice debugging tool some folks don't want to lose. At worst, it causes bugs for programs that accidentally read directories (and maybe some, like grep, need some minor changes). It's not worth this much bile and venom. Warner
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