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Date:      Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:27:18 +0200 (EET)
From:      Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>
To:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
Cc:        "Pedro F. Giffuni" <giffunip@asme.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: BSD Merger Announcement
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1000310102326.13688K-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee>
In-Reply-To: <v04220804b4ee43cb9f62@[194.78.234.238]>

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 3:59 PM -0500 2000/3/9, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
> 
> >  It is too early to think of these things, but I (and surely many other
> >  BSD fans) am hoping that after BSDI merge their code, NetBSD and OpenBSD
> >  join (code and teams) with FreeBSD.
> 
> 	The FreeBSD code will certainly be there if NetBSD and OpenBSD 
> would like to make use of it.  And from what I heard at the NLFUG 
> meeting this weekend, Jordan (and many others) would like very much 
> to start working more closely with the NetBSD and OpenBSD developers, 
> with the potential for unifying codebases at some point in time in 
> the future.
> 

Go 4.5BSD, Go!

> 	However, anyone who has been involved with this process for a 
> while can tell you that there are some significant personality issues 
> involved (heck, if you were watching daily.daemonnews.org, you saw 
> that -- the only remains can be found at 
> <http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=671>).
> 
> 

Anybody involved for even slightly more than shortly has probably seen a
flamewar or two. Even if they have become much more rare than they used to
be (a good thing).

> 	I believe that the FreeBSD folks are going to make a concerted 
> effort to try to work more closely with both NetBSD and OpenBSD 
> developers, however people are going to have to meet them half way.
> 
> 	From Jordan's comments, BSD, Inc. is *very* well aware of how 
> important it is to keep a single brand image and to avoid even the 
> appearance of internal fracturing, but there is only so much they can 
> do by themselves.
> 
> 
> 	For whatever reason, Linux can have eleventy bazillion 
> distributions, and yet all of them can still be viewed as "Linux", 
> and therefore there is no apparent internal fracturing.
> 
> 	There are just four major different versions of BSD that I am 
> aware of, and while their differences are more on par with Linux 
> distributions than anything else, they still get their heads served 
> to them on a platter for not pulling together.
> 
> 	I just don't get it.
> 

They are just plain hypocritical.

> -- 
>   These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy
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