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Date:      Mon, 29 Jan 1996 03:34:00 -0800
From:      David Greenman <davidg@Root.COM>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why RFC1323 is disabled on freefall and freebsd.cdrom.com ? 
Message-ID:  <199601291134.DAA00305@Root.COM>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:18:42 %2B0100." <199601291118.MAA05320@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> 

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>1) extensions (really, TCP options) are negotiated. If the server
>   does _not_ request for possibly unknown extensions, but merely
>   respond to incoming requests, I do not see how this could do
>   any harm.  I don't know if FreeBSD requests for extensions even
>   in the LISTEN state, but disabling this should require trivial
>   changes to the kernel (and it would probably be a good idea to
>   implement such a behaviour).

   The problem isn't the negotiation - this happens just fine. The problem is
with certain terminal servers that won't pass packets with TCP options in
them. The options negotiation succeeds, but all the packets from that point on
are dropped.

>2) the "99.999%" may be an exaggeration, but to me it means "never".
>   This might be a bad idea for more useful options (such as
>   selective ACKs).

   Actually, 99.999% is probably not enough. 1 in 100000 people means I'll be
getting a trouble report every 5 days (sooner now that I've upgraded the
machine to handle 600 users - the traffic has almost doubled since I last
calculated the people/day statistic).

>Note however that the two sites that do use RFC1323 are large
>servers, comparable (or larger) to ftp.cdrom.com. And the second
>one is a commercial site, so they are quite interested in letting
>everybody in without troubles.

   Yes, but wcarchive is the largest FTP site in the world. We likely have 10
times the traffic (or more!) of those other sites. I don't think you realize
just how much traffic wcarchive has each day.

-DG

David Greenman
Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project



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