From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 21:39:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60458106566B; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F7F8FC17; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Rd7P8-0003XO-F9>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:22 +0100 Received: from e178016253.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.16.253] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Rd7P8-0004Ye-9D>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4EF10088.1010409@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:39:20 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Igor Mozolevsky References: <4EE1EAFE.3070408@m5p.com> <4EE2AE64.9060802@m5p.com> <4EE88343.2050302@m5p.com> <4EE933C6.4020209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111215024249.GA13557@icarus.home.lan> <4EE9A2A0.80607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8C1553888582332653719232" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.16.253 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Current FreeBSD , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:39:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8C1553888582332653719232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on > criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative > benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to > benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any > numbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, or any other "real > world"-application torture tests done on the aforementioned two > platforms... IMO, this just goes to show that "doing is hard" and > "criticising is much easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony involved in > making this statement, but someone has to!) >=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Igor M :-) Unfortunately, M. Larabel is the only one who's performing benchmarks on FreeBSD, comparing its performance to the Linux-opponents. Adn indeed, there is a lot of criticism, but no alternative. I said unfortunately - not offensive - since Larabel and Phoronix are sadly the only ones who do actually such bechmarking. It would be much more nicer and kind to support those people. Well, in January/February we get new hardware. One box is supposed to do number crunching via 12 cores and a TESLA GPU. My colleague is developing a high parallelized peice of software for satellite data transformation. The software package is CPU bound, partially GPU, but massively memory hungry (96 to 128 GB RAM is needed). What I can offer is, since I will also work on that machine and I've free hand to administer, in the spare time of doing my PhD, installing FreeBSD 9.0/10.0 besides SuSe Linux and looking forward having one ZFS data storage drive for homes, so both systems can perform on a most recent ZFS. I'm new to Linux, not a BSD guru, nor I'm a professional programmer/developer. My skills are sufficient for the daily scientific work. So, without pressure, I'm willing to perform some HPC benchmarks under advice if the day comes and those interested in bare numbers of FreeBSD vs. Linux performance with a real-world-scientific application. I would appreciate to see some of the developers and/or FreeBSD hackers to help Phoronix setting up a proper testenvironment instead of bashing M. Larabel and his fellows. 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