From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 21 21:07:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A06914B8792 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E57E8824EA for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com with SMTP id t17so13410512vsc.8 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:07:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4v7OxF+YG4uOUQ0N8HubZ29eSkNWH6EHQSWFDlmMklk=; b=lVwWLEk4J52T61aYhfy3iP5e1e8PVxR5Hs0DKvTtlH2Kiy8AFtNfDwpnRZaFif4Ek8 NbvgwW9sMIcj8YO2zgXQWFacGmavmzwC1QzUwkJyBFxkqaweqn3A2waUvi7fy0p+y8O+ k0CLsfKhaXO/HxJdHlK6zx/ZMs8RihB6HNxcIKMCwivFk9LRHdfLA48oW1N2jDO5ZcK0 dN2uZ/dlphe08z9aQglS1ydKsi3LTL28WrUKO9i2y1WgpQvZ5UYxEORTmrVXWu1JGV23 wgZ7FXhQxbcTzfqu5DLTAUhQw/seqsp+JeVbi+z6n4hcPqvqbj2VLsY8R2NElbq8gAg0 GDAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4v7OxF+YG4uOUQ0N8HubZ29eSkNWH6EHQSWFDlmMklk=; b=mn6t4TXZCR6jYL7AuqSKt+4qtOp2ECRi/QoepRTHANWywC8wnkIpRBRbRGSQP5m0kT YPNYFTLTgHB0ZVzdsFv665GvPRA0Pv6Q3jRQA3VbgDMYJm6l4nfkxsIcVCI7Ji6tnt1t t40BDDfJnsYXSsAG9lNh3V8gSZeS8rjTIITAqHl1SzEMajHhC1z/HTwDD8yNSJll/+c9 knGqoz+hReEfmXZn4MDAmtZPfcBzFPTpLPQ9qjiz6nZnf5jCaFQYizaJUpbn82lpxfEx sGyMF938Mie6xs283jH4dMnCkg7B63GK7K+eA4gvrt3ucmQp1wtQFupVLq9MofGq4I4Z 5Q/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcC+LgkMim+UEkHMVgzCT9JVfvbx/r6bkP5UkFZ+c7GOCgnnb87 inIuB/6ZVRejP2fqFcmdTFbE8akVhbZ0AUUAtLVwj20R X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4lrU/vXkE5UJTvyvdsjnjUzuwHlPmPx5Khz+JWCaUG1Od27I/MIT7Ch2kg1Sq3FiDUTumxwU8xl9rSomULguY= X-Received: by 2002:a67:87cf:: with SMTP id j198mr12660942vsd.104.1548104856476; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:07:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190121210121.GB20854@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20190121210121.GB20854@neutralgood.org> From: Patrick Mahan Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:07:25 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trying to understand some email issues To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E57E8824EA X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lVwWLEk4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of plmahan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=plmahan@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-2.85)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.42), asn: 15169(-1.87), country: US(-0.08)]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:07:38 -0000 Kevin, I completely agree, but it always depends on how good a GP you have. Took me a few years of discarding before I found my current GP who is very competent. That said, I have been on and off a user of FreeBSD for close to 20 years and have always found that starting with freebsd-questions is never a bad thing for a first step. Patrick On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 1:03 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 12:06:04PM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: > > Patrick, you wouldn't see a podiatrist if you were suffering from > > cancer, you would see an oncologist. The same rational is true here. > > Your problem deals with "postfix", so your questions should be directed > > there. There are an extremely knowledgeable group. The author, Wietse > > Venema, quite often chimes in with answers to user's questions. To join > > the list, check this out: http://www.postfix.com/lists.html > > I might see my general practitioner first, though. Maybe my GP knows the > answer, and maybe I need to see a specialist. It doesn't hurt to ask. > > -- > Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ > "14. Re-reading No. 13, I realize that it's quite possible I'm losing my > mind. I'm glad that for the most part I'm not aware it's happening." > -- from "20 things I'm thankful for": Fortune, Nov 29, 2004, page 230 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >