From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 11 07:20:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEC616A418; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F9B13C447; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C95220C3; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:20:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: -0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC67C20BB; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:20:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D20018448D; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:20:33 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Doug Barton References: <200710090730.l997UEEF042804@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071010002930.GA91077@dragon.NUXI.org> <20071010183542.GA58383@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:20:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Doug Barton's message of "Wed\, 10 Oct 2007 18\:13\:36 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <86odf615j2.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, David O'Brien Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/rc.d early.sh X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:20:43 -0000 Doug Barton writes: > I'm not opposed to that idea (in fact I seriously considered it) but > the reason I didn't do it is that I don't have a good sense of why we > need it. Once again as Mike pointed out, the reason that it was there, > and the reason it was .sh was specifically to do what we're now trying > to avoid, since whatever benefits there may have been don't outweigh > the risks. So you remove functionality that others depend on simply because you don't understand it and / or don't need it yourself? This is FreeBSD, not DougBSD. You didn't even bother to ask on freebsd-rc. > I was unaware of the use of this script suggested in gmirror(8) until > Dmitry pointed it out to me, and that usage should really be converted > to a proper rc.d script. It's not the kind of thing that lends itself well to being formalized in that manner. This is precisely why we have rc.early and rc.local: so people who have special (perhaps one-off) needs can do special (perhaps one-off) things without jumping through too many hoops. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no