From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:44:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1682616A4D1 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [216.152.64.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDC43D48 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from however ([206.171.168.138]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:44:14 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:44:13 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2055 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:17 -0000 > And therein lies a problem. The only thing any of the committers cares > about is what they think. Got a problem? Submit a patch. Don't like the > way things are done? Submit a patch. Don't like how such-and-such a util > works? Submit a patch. Let me also point out that the "submit a patch" response can mean any number of things. It can mean anything from "go away you annoying twit" to "that would be really cool, I just don't have time to code it". Typically, when someone does say "submit a patch" they do clarify and you can tell what they really mean by it. FreeBSD does need more advocacy if it wants to get the kind of visibility and credibility that Linux has in the public perception. Frankly, I'm kind of baffled that it doesn't. I've always found the two OSes more or less interchangeable and tend to install whichever one whose CD I can find first. DS