Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:19:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Roderick <hruodr@gmail.com> To: "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com> Cc: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: sendmail Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907031615370.1495@fbsd.local> In-Reply-To: <E3DAD8A1-A16F-41F0-9D2D-F75FAEC2FD14@kreme.com> References: <CAL2OhpoSxnK2Uy_OKxqnWyXuqg=tNBm6wy2r1%2BukVWwPnPrj0g@mail.gmail.com> <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <D25B22FD-2164-4281-AE21-9C5FD188AA38@gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907010639210.1006@fbsd.local> <A3CEF82D-B71D-4B4F-87AD-E3408559DE26@boosten.org> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907011156350.1062@fbsd.local> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907030640510.1102@fbsd.local> <E3DAD8A1-A16F-41F0-9D2D-F75FAEC2FD14@kreme.com>
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On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, @lbutlr wrote: > and you are not qualified to denigrate people who make that choice > just because it isn’t the choice you like. Yes, it was a little provocative, but never denigration. So an exageration as when you said: postfix is the only choice. Till now I ask me, how to chose the right MTA. Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 16:36:36 2019 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FA715D94B6 for <freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231F3834A9 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622E371805B for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: sendmail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <CAL2OhpoSxnK2Uy_OKxqnWyXuqg=tNBm6wy2r1+ukVWwPnPrj0g@mail.gmail.com> <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <D25B22FD-2164-4281-AE21-9C5FD188AA38@gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907010639210.1006@fbsd.local> <A3CEF82D-B71D-4B4F-87AD-E3408559DE26@boosten.org> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907011156350.1062@fbsd.local> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907030640510.1102@fbsd.local> <E3DAD8A1-A16F-41F0-9D2D-F75FAEC2FD14@kreme.com> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907031615370.1495@fbsd.local> From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <bc027a72-6ee5-7746-90c6-6830cbe833ad@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:36:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1907031615370.1495@fbsd.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 231F3834A9 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.903,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.05)[0.049,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.41)[0.411,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:36:36 -0000 On 2019-07-03 11:19, Roderick wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, @lbutlr wrote: > >> and you are not qualified to denigrate people who make that choice >> just because it isn’t the choice you like. > > Yes, it was a little provocative, but never denigration. > > So an exageration as when you said: postfix is the only choice. > > Till now I ask me, how to chose the right MTA. Indeed, the question is akin: how to become a sysadmin? Two options: you can just learn by doing and after 5-6 years you will have your solid choice, or you can read what proponents of different choices say, and estimate using your best guess how trustworthy what is said is , and what you yourself like best. A shortcut for second to first is to choose good book on how to run secure mail server, and just follow that. I for one used that last approach some 20 years ago, and architecture of postfix (built with security in mind) was one confirmation that I chose good source (that was: secure system guide - do not remember the title...); and I never regretted. And I learned a lot of fundamental approach which I still use in whatever I do now. And I still use postfix whenever I need MTA. Good luck. Valeri > > Rod. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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