From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 31 10:43:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5817E16A4CE for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from royk.itea.ntnu.no (royk.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5D43D1F for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:43:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C72C66CBF for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 46042 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Mar 2005 10:42:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 10:42:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:42:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050331123135.X37549@maren.thelosingend.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ronald Klop Subject: RE: making freebsd known to the world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:43:13 -0000 * Ted Mittelstaedt [2005-03-31 01:45 -0800] > > but why is FreeBSD never > > listed on websites of third party applications like firefox? > > In this directory I can't find a FreeBSD package for example. > > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.1/contrib/ > > > > Have you ever built firefox? It requires about 28 ports or so that > are not in the base FreeBSD install, at least for version 4.11, and > that is for the native version of it. And many of these are GPL > so you are just adding trouble for BSD users who need a system they > can use as a base for a commercial product - the last thing they want > to discover is their app linked into some GPL library. > > If the Linux distributors want to bloat their base systems for every > 3rd party application that comes along that is fine. I think you misunderstood. Noone is asking to add firefox (or any other third-party application) to the base system. I think the OP is asking the FreeBSD community to put some pressure on third-party vendors to make freebsd-packages available on their websites. This way the word "FreeBSD" would be mentioned and hopefully noticed. To the OP, I can only say that I might agree, but this is really up to the vensors if they see it profitable or otherwise advantegous to do so. Opera for instance, are marketing their support for FreeBSD. However, I stand by Ted's advice to ask this in the advocacy mailing list. Svein Halvor