From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 03:40:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FAD16A4DE for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C62643D45 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:40:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5C8291B2B; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70925-05; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED1C291B08; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id E4DDF49D6B; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DF449CC2; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:42 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:42 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: kevlar Hodge-Podge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060724003805.B17979@ganymede.hub.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1293882854-1153712442=:17979" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What sort of market does FreeBSD provide ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:40:46 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1293882854-1153712442=:17979 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE 'k, there are at least two "clients" already in existence ... and, in=20 fact, the one that I posted the URL about even has Protocol information=20 included, so we *should* be able to avoid recreating the wheel here, only= =20 extend it ... I should *not* be a mandatory ... then we're as bad as other companies=20 that are into embedding 'spyware' ... it should be an opt-in sort of=20 thing, but something that is included as part of the OS, just like=20 ntpdate ... something a simple addition to /etc/rc.conf would enable,=20 *or*, even have it enabled by default, but easy to *disable* ... As for older releases, that would fall under a verison available in ports,= =20 that could be downloaded and run ... There has to be conscious involvement from the community as a whole in=20 this though ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, kevlar Hodge-Podge wrote: > I just want to see if I understand the issue correctly. > >> From what it sounds like there would need to both be a server for all th= e=20 > individual machines to connect to, and some sort of scripted client to=20 > capture info on the machine and send it to the server. When asking about= =20 > older machines such as the RELENG_4 mail server mentioned, wouldn=92t tha= t=20 > person have to go back and in stall this software on the machine? Also if= =20 > this project were to work, it would almost have to be placed as a high=20 > priority install, if not almost mandatory. When and how often would the= =20 > client contact the server? Every reboot would seem like a good time, but= =20 > possibly more often. Would it be possible to modify a very thin email cli= ent=20 > to work as the client, meaning the server would send an email, and when= =20 > received it would prompt you =93would you like to send uptime/user data n= ow?=94=20 > perhaps even being able to choose what types of data to send. I think the= =20 > average person would be more likely to send more info if they knew exactl= y=20 > what was being sent. > > > >> From: Darren >> Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org >> To: User Freebsd >> CC: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" >> Subject: Re: What sort of market does FreeBSD provide ... ? >> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:23:12 -0700 >>=20 >> User Freebsd wrote: >>> Who *big* recognizes FreeBSD as a viable operating system, at least=20 >>> openly? >>=20 >> When PHK asked the FreeBSD community to donate USD16,500-33000 so he cou= ld=20 >> spend 3-6 months working regular hours on FreeBSD, Pair Networks (pair.c= om)=20 >> donated USD20,000. >>=20 >> I don't know if that's "recognition as viable" or not, but businesses=20 >> generally don't give $20k to anyone without a reasonable expectation of = a=20 >> solid return on investment. >>=20 >>> Hell, how many ppl are still running 3.x or 4.x systems, vs the newer= =20 >>> stuff? >>=20 >> I have a few systems running the "final" RELENG_4. These are only doing= so=20 >> because they're internal file or mail servers on older hardware. They're= =20 >> stable, problem free and have low exposure with no applicable security= =20 >> flaws. I can't justify depriving a business of critical IT services for= =20 >> the several hours it will take to do the rebuild. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 --0-1293882854-1153712442=:17979--