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Date:      Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:02:12 -0500
From:      "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net>
To:        "Chris Faulhaber" <jedgar@fxp.org>, "Dominic Marks" <dominic_marks@hotmail.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Secure Servers (SMTP, POP3, FTP)
Message-ID:  <004a01c09465$86506f80$1e9e6389@137.99.156.23>
References:  <F55PFTg4bPYkAOt67zL00011da9@hotmail.com> <20010211074201.B1396@jive.44bsd.net>

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the code is unauditable? last time i checked, you compiled qmail from
source. In fact, Mr. Bernstein has tighter restrictions on binary
distribution.

"You are permitted to distribute a precompiled var-qmail package if (1)
installing the package produces exactly the same /var/qmail hierarchy as a
user would obtain by downloading, compiling, and installing
qmail-1.03.tar.gz, fastforward-0.51.tar.gz, and dot-forward-0.71.tar.gz; (2)
the package behaves correctly, i.e., the same way as normal
qmail+fastforward+dot-forward installations on all other systems; and (3)
the package's creator warrants that he has made a good-faith attempt to
ensure that the package behaves correctly. It is not acceptable to have
qmail working differently on different machines; any variation is a bug. If
there's something about a system (compiler, libraries, kernel, hardware,
whatever) that changes qmail's behavior, then that platform is not
supported, and you are not permitted to distribute binaries. "

the licence is the standard artistic rights licence which says any changes
prior to redistribution must be approved but that's about it. I don't see
how that scheme "stinks".  IIRC, eric raymond requested all changes to
fetchmail to go through him before going public (several years ago).

the bottom line is, comb through the code, find a flaw, make an exploit, go
to Mr. Bernstein with the documentation, and claim your <insert current
assigned monetary value> prize. isn't that what "auditing" is all about?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Faulhaber" <jedgar@fxp.org>
To: "Dominic Marks" <dominic_marks@hotmail.com>
Cc: <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: Secure Servers (SMTP, POP3, FTP)

> Mail Options:
> 1. Qmail - Secure, written for FreeBSD (Qwest?), Fast, Configurable

But the code is unauditable and the license stinks.




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