From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun Jan 5 18:45:35 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C110F1E22B7; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47rSJG6TWVz4c0y; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85F38488E7; Mon, 6 Jan 2020 03:45:31 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=utahime.org; s=maybe2019112701; t=1578249931; bh=zJpzndhXvRbrh1RzC6X5k4JbyVUneaJlJ8s+rWUtAWU=; h=Date:To:Cc:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References; b=qtZ/p3I4OmwVGfTOuLxyM3PqlLUeFzEHrocDcwxT5ZMsavpoIebXQ7ySAfvvakb5B HquWLQwkScrgmo/jkh8ESHOh2sU6F5vx/xkb/OVu48EcbI4lWhH4Rjq1RNoFvpJnSw BykEiZj6GJkBjR33yihZAqWnipvpIY8hdPdTPOlws2AdTQDz/JqUf2ifSuWGQivGOd YyGXrsZYq/OrCQ8M9XkVnvAlIgqxywxbS6bfCVo5Nm4dPQDJlsFXamF1NtIIEVs8IX V5fce2WwO7iyPsXJkeLkR9ONRiIwtT9DVulSR9Nel/GyrmHoyd+3AA+YkcnVWU8/1Q MwvVeFRfm+Qmg== Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47F6A5EFA9; Mon, 6 Jan 2020 03:45:29 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.1 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 03:44:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20200106.034459.54741258810442187.yasu@utahime.org> To: imp@bsdimp.com Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r356379 - head/share/mk From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: <20200106.025257.202876441661893679.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47rSJG6TWVz4c0y X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=utahime.org header.s=maybe2019112701 header.b=qtZ/p3I4; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[utahime.org:s=maybe2019112701]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.55)[-0.546,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org:c]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[utahime.org:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.00)[0.002,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.34)[ip: (0.23), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.12), asn: 2519(1.33), country: JP(0.03)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 18:45:35 -0000 From: Warner Losh Subject: Re: svn commit: r356379 - head/share/mk Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 12:17:21 -0600 > There are no firm plans at the moment. However, it looks like it's not used > except for powerpc. I'd expect that once the issues there are resolved with > clang, or that platform migrates to an external toolchain, binutils in > base's days will be numbered since it is GPL and the project has a long > term goal of being GPL free where possible. From: Ed Maste Subject: Re: svn commit: r356379 - head/share/mk Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 13:17:32 -0500 > There's no specific plan, but it is an ongoing goal. Only three > binutils tools are used (for bootstrapping and in the installed > system): as, ld, and objdump. > > BINUTILS_BOOTSTRAP is enabled on x86, 32-bit arm, and powerpc. At > least both x86 archs still use GNU as for a few files; there's work in > progress to migrate to Clang's IAS for all assembly files. I am not > sure if bootstrap as actually gets used on arm or powerpc. objdump is > also built, but not used on any arch. ld is built on powerpc and still > being used there; it's not built on x86 or 32-bit arm. > > Making further progress depends on lld maturing (for powerpc) and > addressing the assembler issue. There's no commitment to removing > binutils for 13.0 but there is a reasonable probability we'll be able > to do so. Thank you for reply. I understand current status and hope binutils is successfully removed from base system before the release of 13.0. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA