From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Apr 16 3:57:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0F37B96D for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26495 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:57:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id MAA00492 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:57:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from holly.calldei.com (adsl-208-191-146-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.146.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372A337B7B5; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01205; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:30:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:30:09 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Peter Wemm , Warner Losh , Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , Poul-Henning Kamp , Brian Somers , "David E. O'Brien" , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources Message-ID: <20000415203009.B99830@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <20000415231805.33B311CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20000416024118.A71475@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i In-Reply-To: <20000416024118.A71475@lucifer.bart.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, April 16, 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20000416 01:20], Peter Wemm (peter@netplex.com.au) wrote: > >IMHO, the way to keep most people happy (or least unhappy :-]) is to finish > >the tcsh thing, and change root's shell to /bin/sh and probably change the > >default new-user shell to sh as well if it isn't already. > As I said before, csh/tcsh is not the standard shell needed for > POSIX/SUS(v2) compliance. > Scriptwriters should not depend on its presence, they should be writing > for /bin/sh instead. When will you rewrite vgrind(1) and rip out csh from under all the csh users' feet? Just because 80% of the people (if not more) think csh is horrible, doesn't mean that we should just completely remove it without putting anything remotely resembling it in its place. -- |Chris Costello |Earth is 98% full...please delete anyone you can. `------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message