From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 00:29:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0C616A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp08.wxs.nl (smtp08.wxs.nl [195.121.6.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A94343D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pblok@bsd4all.org) Received: from fwgw.homebrew.bsd4all.org (ip503cf841.speed.planet.nl [80.60.248.65]) by smtp08.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HRT00IUCZEQ4Z@smtp08.wxs.nl> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:25:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from bsdpc (bsdpc [192.168.1.135]) by fwgw.homebrew.bsd4all.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0L8QxUD002024 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:26:59 +0100 (CET envelope-from pblok@bsd4all.org) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:26:58 +0100 From: Peter Blok In-reply-to: <20040120211804.D605@korben.in.tern> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-id: <200401210926.58960.pblok@bsd4all.org> Organization: bsd4all MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on fwgw.homebrew.bsd4all.org References: <20040120201119.W53587-100000@x12.dk> <400D8B24.8090108@wooten.com> <20040120211804.D605@korben.in.tern> Subject: Re: GEOM + Vinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:29:59 -0000 Hi, I'm one of the users in need of a clean update path. I will dedicate a system for update and geom_vinum tests. Peter On Tuesday 20 January 2004 21:25, Lukas Ertl wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Kevin Wooten wrote: > > >My 2 cents is to start building the house from the ground with the geom > > >classes, then add on the algorithms from the existing vinum. > > >and end up with the roof as is the the vinum configuration tool. > > > > My point is that with the GEOM config...who needs vinum config?? > > People should have a clean update path and FreeBSD has always respected > POLA. What I know from the recent thread about vinum and GEOM, and given > that there will be more upcoming changes to the I/O infrastructure, vinum > is likely to be broken once FreeBSD 5.3 is out. > > The 5.3 branch should clearly be a -stable branch once again, and if we > want people to finally upgrade from 4.x, they have to be able to do it > without much fuss. > > So, providing a completely compatible geom_vinum is a must, IMHO. > > regards, > le