From owner-freebsd-mips@freebsd.org Sun Dec 31 01:04:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mips@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EFEEB6DF2; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 01:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.blih.net", Issuer "mail.blih.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B08C17771E; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 01:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mail.blih.net (mail.blih.net [212.83.177.182]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b4f78b76; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:04:49 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=bidouilliste.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to :cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id; s=mail; bh=o0Jzx6 BPFIyTP44625CknCF+Wqc=; b=gWjU4BHpR5Z/6rEyH6dd/UHlOWs98BKNJDgrhj QbnZVmK7Lww01YnsVfHBLv4/SXY665HDJNdfyNkvtXOfMXiokKMLaGdpsDNShJUk G1NX9+QR+DsAKgp5rTcuoRwxBm4WqZeBBILWjV7ZItP/fQgDeNbTJZLluE/cxFUx E+BLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=bidouilliste.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to :cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id; q=dns; s=mail; b= XQOES9SLvqrQ2LL/aFVU2NDoJsaOV49MvNrF+b+a2D1EtvC8qYTJG26IuubQ+U64 UBmnF1GY3EHeSJEu4tEBqORRh3crGwa/TPa7BTiA5OU2kCj86g+15jdv3JjCRsWA 3Bf3leanKHb2P/Atz/kN0RlP/E8TbXEYrQRroo/AFCw= Received: from webmail.megadrive.org (www1.blih.net [212.83.177.180]) by mail.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 7dc1514c; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:04:49 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 02:04:49 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Warner Losh , freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , freebsd-mips@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-mips@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning Organization: Bidouilliste In-Reply-To: <201712310046.vBV0kLQ7078533@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201712310046.vBV0kLQ7078533@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: <12b36190fcd6918a01d88fd4dbf1a220@megadrive.org> X-Sender: manu@bidouilliste.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mips@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to MIPS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 01:04:52 -0000 On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: >> >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? When last I >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally >> > came >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. >> > > >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted w/o >> > loss >> > > of functionality. >> > >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about >> > this. It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has >> > NOT been done yet. At least that is how I read the persons >> > comments. >> >> >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and >> we've >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email >> asking >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my >> interpretation >> is correct. > > Thanks. Also you might want to ping the router projects folks, > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and > they may have info on which of the implementations work better, > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x > can just be axed. I know this project is out there someplace, > but can not find a link for it right now. And I have seen > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months. "router project folks" ? Who are you talking about exactly ? >> Warner >> >> >> > >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a bunch of >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. What am >> > I >> > > missing? >> > > >> > > Warner >> > > >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi Warner, >> > > > >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to be >> > kept >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik from >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte is >> > to be >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" with >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). >> > > > >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) >> > > > >> > > > Thank you! >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your >> > family. >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following >> > before the >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. >> > > >> >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack >> > > >> memory, very old) >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) >> > > >> >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to >> > arch@. >> > > >> >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older >> > > >> ports >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on >> > these >> > > >> boards anymore. >> > > >> >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer >> > running >> > > >> on >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks! >> > > >> >> > > >> Warner >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ >> > freebsd.org" >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Rod Grimes >> > rgrimes@freebsd.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> -- Emmanuel Vadot