From nobody Fri Jul 28 16:37:03 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RCCwD44gJz4p9Pn for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-x1132.google.com (mail-yw1-x1132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RCCwC6b02z3mg2 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b=M7TF9iHo; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paulbeard@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1132 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paulbeard@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-yw1-x1132.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-584388ec441so25839337b3.3 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:37:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1690562234; x=1691167034; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=3zRejytZ5dzD+cGzAV5z0cl5tANiniKNJAM3w9ZcA5I=; b=M7TF9iHov2I3OYJRXvruQjnvGHQ1sG4PqOlrLVABTpb8rSd9qCSA8P/iiWtcdZGgNz 7aki9L3PQwEcZtl4Rqmqy4g8IjT99yJ1YOBF3cXVIp+iG9zS6YN9jRi69W5Jk8Ni8hed nEN0kFxVjN4Gocda25cncwix44tR+tuV3az4GH3by8dJJ1cM8QCTuydTZIfLPgrodAP6 HZf38aEs7xW3e+lOWfC3dJrCdVwtucxCP5aQwtLnoqBwyvrcA+fV0fa/LlLXLoE4Urt3 w4oLUFe+gg+/DJc/TNOOe6XiZVet5PT9J6gP2XeduEWVGRYl7UP3Tczvyv46rQJON8O3 Ae6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1690562234; x=1691167034; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=3zRejytZ5dzD+cGzAV5z0cl5tANiniKNJAM3w9ZcA5I=; b=CWKzADo1NJAW1Q1Bn65kzCWlZ9oJ8xjEm95mQRnZ6r7ze/2rR6N09UmPqs5jBPnXJg /xgAzgguNdnoXSPkHZVLaOqxcEbulIzlDZ3inGXFXhY0URGf3O9NE5pjJEDNJ9K+0YOh 6y5gYQqIc28rLX8OUEmeMuwoUk6ty+OMUKx5mqfiVlf1ZwUkDFRfpmHvuP7yDbsQn7tM O1F/kQD2qOFWNUAcQE5TaS6+/dN6KhOloLtZ1KhqbjS7ho89/NqI6nPy5YyFTw/C6O+S W2xc0yhESRxqtPcR/Gs26GuJUPjxMQzQoEAK8P+Mz6Drh0WR4hx2N9q9FZqM1creh0aI YSpw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLb4Fjuhkcv0LMZ3kOTtaSdnXI3YQgn+nD+jdcizAcNEkm9sX4Yh mBftxwe7SEeYUjrlJis83B+FRn9qmZAAV4D5pNw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlHGC5bk12zOqLYMDZE6pJtWTa8Uqf/5nPQX36b2FemxE+505T6mlj1dVnXP7L8h7N/Z3VLFey9TQpLNxl62VZc= X-Received: by 2002:a81:dd09:0:b0:570:2568:15e with SMTP id e9-20020a81dd09000000b005702568015emr2725729ywn.43.1690562234492; Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:37:14 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: paul beard Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:37:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sympa mailing list manager To: Tom Browder Cc: William Dudley , freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000752af206018eb1c5" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.83 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.84)[-0.835]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20221208]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1132:from]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RCCwC6b02z3mg2 X-Spamd-Bar: --- --000000000000752af206018eb1c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "=E2=80=A6stopped when Gmail stopped providing use of their smtp." I still use google as a relay from my freebsd host=E2=80=A6would using it f= or mailman be different or am I missing something? On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 8:51=E2=80=AFAM Tom Browder = wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 22:11 William Dudley wrote: > >> Tom et al, >> >> I run about 10 mailing lists on my FreeBSD 13.1 box. >> > > Bill, thanks for the reply. I, too, used to run Mailman 2 but stopped whe= n > Gmail stopped providing use of their smtp. One other drawback was I didn'= t > see a way to use it for multiple domains. > > What do you think about Mailman 3? I followed its development faithfully > until they split it all up and it was too much for me. Now it might be > worth a shot with cheap VMs and FreeBSD. > > -Tom > --=20 Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --000000000000752af206018eb1c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"=E2=80=A6stopped when Gmail stopped providing use of= their smtp."=C2=A0

I still use google as a relay f= rom my freebsd host=E2=80=A6would using it for mailman be different=C2=A0or= am I missing=C2=A0something?=C2=A0

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 8:51=E2=80= =AFAM Tom Browder <tom.browder@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul = 27, 2023 at 22:11 William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.com> wrote:
Tom et al,

I run about 10 mailing lists on my= FreeBSD 13.1 box.

Bill, thanks for the reply. I, too, used to run Ma= ilman 2 but stopped when Gmail stopped providing use of their smtp. One oth= er drawback was I didn't see a way to use it for multiple domains.

What do you think abou= t Mailman 3? I followed its development faithfully until they split it all = up and it was too much for me. Now it might be worth a shot with cheap VMs = and FreeBSD.

-Tom


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