From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 11:40:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F0A16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:40:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C333643D48 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:40:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j1ABeCj20060 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:40:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <108284711.20050210103325@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo suchasNetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:40:10 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> Yep, I was wondering how long it would take before someone figured >> this one out. We know the real rea$on$ that this logo change is >> being contemplated, don't we. > > Personally, I wonder how FreeBSD survives based exclusively on > volunteer efforts. It's a noble idea, but in the real world, things > cost money, and people need to earn a living. Something that > survives exclusively from the kindness of strangers leads a fragile > existence. > FreeBSD has a > large following and seems reasonably stable, but when something is a > volunteer effort, the larger the following, the better. This depends on your definition of survival. As long as FreeBSD runs on some hardware, and people still use it, it's surviving. The only real issue I see to FreeBSD's survival that requires corporate attention is device drivers for new hardware. And this is an issue that harms all operating systems even Windows. There are just as many older versions of Windows being made unrunnable by new hardware that lacks drivers for it, as BSD versions. but beyond this, the computer industry itself is in a real growth slump anyway. The 8080 IBM PCjr architecture is still at the core of new PC hardware. What growth we are seeing is the increasing commoditization of hardware. Unfortunately this is stunting the introduction of newer and possibly better ways to build a computer, all it does is just make the hardware cheaper and cheaper, and less and less innovative. (not that I'm complaining about the cheaper part, of course) Ted