From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 31 11:30:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A65916A4CE for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:30:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ronald.echteman.nl (h8441134153.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0ACEF43D3F for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:30:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org) Received: (qmail 24637 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 11:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.thuis.klop.ws) (10.0.1.4) by ronald.echteman.nl with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 11:30:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 32747 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 11:30:25 -0000 Received: from localhost.thuis.klop.ws (HELO smtp.local) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.thuis.klop.ws with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 11:30:25 -0000 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" References: <20050331123135.X37549@maren.thelosingend.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:30:22 +0200 From: "Ronald Klop" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050331123135.X37549@maren.thelosingend.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (FreeBSD, build 955) cc: Svein Halvor Halvorsen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making freebsd known to the world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:30:29 -0000 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:42:52 +0200 (CEST), Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > * Ted Mittelstaedt [2005-03-31 01:45 -0800] >> > but why is FreeBSD never >> > listed on websites of third party applications like firefox? >> > In this directory I can't find a FreeBSD package for example. >> > >> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.1/contrib/ >> > >> >> Have you ever built firefox? It requires about 28 ports or so that >> are not in the base FreeBSD install, at least for version 4.11, and >> that is for the native version of it. And many of these are GPL >> so you are just adding trouble for BSD users who need a system they >> can use as a base for a commercial product - the last thing they want >> to discover is their app linked into some GPL library. >> >> If the Linux distributors want to bloat their base systems for every >> 3rd party application that comes along that is fine. > > > I think you misunderstood. Noone is asking to add firefox (or any other > third-party application) to the base system. I think the OP is asking the > FreeBSD community to put some pressure on third-party vendors to make > freebsd-packages available on their websites. This way the word "FreeBSD" > would be mentioned and hopefully noticed. > > To the OP, I can only say that I might agree, but this is really up to > the > vensors if they see it profitable or otherwise advantegous to do so. > Opera > for instance, are marketing their support for FreeBSD. > > However, I stand by Ted's advice to ask this in the advocacy mailing > list. I just mailed mozilla about it, but I don't expect an answer soon. I will ask this on freebsd-advocacy also. Ronald. -- Ronald Klop, Amsterdam, The Netherlands