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Date:      Mon, 08 May 2006 08:48:26 -0700
From:      Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
To:        JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: CFT: new ath hal (take 2)
Message-ID:  <445F684A.1080501@errno.com>
In-Reply-To: <200605080845.18125.joao@matik.com.br>
References:  <445D3C94.10102@errno.com> <200605072146.07500.joao@matik.com.br>	<445E9A3D.9090909@errno.com> <200605080845.18125.joao@matik.com.br>

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If I had intended stable users to try this code I would have:

1. posted to stable@
2. provided specific changes for those users (e.g. a patch)

You will note my initial post about a new hal was done to both mailing 
lists.  I did not post this hal to stable because I did not want to deal 
with people complaining that things did not work because they had 
problems back-patching the necessary changes.  I included info in my 
original post for those folks running current that were going to do it 
anyway so they could save some time.

I replied to your post because all it did was set people up for failures 
that would result in mail to me that I don't have time to handle.  Then 
those people would either get frustrated by not getting an answer or 
think there was some problem that wasn't being fixed.

I treat the stable src tree VERY carefully.  I do not inflict pain on 
users running stable.  I do not arbitrarily commit changes that require 
people to manually alter their system or otherwise deal with binary 
incompatibilities.  I treat stable as a production code base and only 
apply changes that are considered well-tested and appropriate to run in 
a production environment.

	Sam



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