From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 22:00:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EBC16A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.eunet.yu (smtp2.eunet.yu [194.247.192.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F6543FCB for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kolicz@eunet.yu) Received: from smtp2.EUnet.yu (root@localhost) by smtp2.eunet.yu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB15xvpF001689 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:59:57 +0100 Received: from zoran.kolic.net (P-2.48.EUnet.yu [213.240.2.48]) by smtp2.eunet.yu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB15xteu001626 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:59:56 +0100 Received: by zoran.kolic.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:59:40 +0100 From: "Zoran Kolic" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:59:40 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031201055940.GA520@> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: mail without mta X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 06:00:00 -0000 Dear list! I'd like to know if some- one has experience with system running no mta (aka sendmail). I have single comp, not server, not lan. Yes! Sendmail is nice, but it is too big for simple tasks I have for it. My intention is to use apps small as possible. This letter gone from mutt directly to ssmtp, that processed it to my isp. (Setting option for sendmail as "/usr/local/sbin/ssmtp".) Little drawback is that one cannot write second letter and send it at the same time. Some sort of queue would be helpful. Problems start receiving mail. Fetchmail manual announces po- ssibility for handing over to procmail. Option should be "mda procmail" in user section. I made no rc file for procmail. Test letter really came from pop server to my local depot (/var/mail/zoran). And... Mutt cannot read it. Says "/var/mail/ /zoran is not maildir". It is by default, my dear mutt! I see, that I have to make some procmailrc configuration file. To tell the system, that procmail is local delivery agent now, who is on the machine and where target files are. I need additional reading to anticipate that. No local mail = no system messages. And no simple system I'd like. Documentation on internet says, that shell in procmailrc should be /bin/sh. I use tcsh and the only solution would be to add /usr/local/bin/bash. Defaults are already on the machine. Why procmail doesn't use them? Aliases? File permissions? It is the step I cannot make for now. Turning sendmail on again gave me mail back. I suppose that someone uses similar configuration on laptop or other not heavy loaded machine. Best regards ZK