From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG  Sat Apr 28 05:39:28 2012
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACCF1065678
	for <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:39:28 +0000 (UTC)
	(envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl)
Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99])
	by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354178FC18
	for <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:39:27 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q3S5dQCa008824;
	Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:39:26 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl)
Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost)
	by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id
	q3S5dQQp008821; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:39:26 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:39:25 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAOgwaMv_9c_W4fek-kGhQV3B5bKv4RnEFn_6ixn2LS7qDPma6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1204280738270.8813@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <CAHMRaQf=M0ULOH=KnqzOXvczSM0Lb6apCoQkJegqyU3e8+gShA@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.1204272025080.5846@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<20120427203117.GA2055@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<CAOgwaMv_9c_W4fek-kGhQV3B5bKv4RnEFn_6ixn2LS7qDPma6Q@mail.gmail.com>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7
	(wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]);
	Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:39:26 +0200 (CEST)
Cc: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org,
	Andy Young <ayoung@mosaicarchive.com>
Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?
X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD
	<freebsd-hackers.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers>, 
	<mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers>,
	<mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:39:28 -0000

> 
> My opinion is that most important obstacle in front of FreeBSD is its installation structure :
> 
> 
> It is NOT possible to install and use a FreeBSD distribution directly as it is .
> 
> In Linux distributions , when a distribution is installed , the user , NOT root ,
> can use its facilities WITHOUT setting a ( large ) number of parameters which it is approximately ZERO .

why do you try to position this OS as windows/Mac OS replacement? Unix 
will never be and is not designed for it, but for users that want to have 
real control of computers.

Linux got this was and fell.