From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 14 12:11:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D2B37B400 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pursued-with.net (adsl-66-125-9-242.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.125.9.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1097B43E6A for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Received: from Fffinch.local. (fffinch [192.168.168.101]) by pursued-with.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8EJB3uq041925; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:11:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG To: "Anthony Atkielski" From: Kevin Stevens In-Reply-To: <013e01c25c1f$32162990$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, Sep 14, 2002, at 11:47 US/Pacific, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kevin writes: > >> OS X. > > OS X is a proprietary, pre-packaged version of UNIX with a huge amount > of > specialized code. In fact, it's essentially like a version of Windows, > except that Apple didn't write a lot of the code (presumably because > Apple > can no longer afford to develop complete operating systems). The way > I see > it, OS X has all the advantages and disadvantages of any other > proprietary > OS, such as Windows or the old Mac OS. I'd expect the borrowed part > to be > as stable as any vanilla version of UNIX, but I suspect that all of > Apple's > code will destabilize the OS overall in any but the most predictable > roles--that is pretty much inevitable. Still, I'd also expect it to > run a > lot more reliably than the old Mac OS, which was badly outdated (it > predated > the old 16-bit Windows 3.1, IIRC). (shrug) I disagree with much of what you say above, but it's beside the point so I won't respond. The OP posted: >> However, I would not run any >> flavor of UNIX on the desktop. I tried that for a short time and it >> was a >> joke. Clearly, people who run UNIX on the desktop have little else to >> do >> but play with their computers; I could never afford to dedicate that >> much >> time to just getting a system to work. I appreciate his position - I was in it myself. OS X is indisputably a flavor of Unix. OS X offers a solution to most of the desktop/UI issues. I sold an Ultra 60 and bought an Apple PowerBook expressly to run it. I now have a full Unix environment with commercial software available, and a GUI that provides a reasonably consistent user interface. KeS OB-FreeBSD: I'm on this list because I converted my server from Solaris to FreeBSD in order to gain better mind-share with OS X. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message