From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 9 07:52:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964D116A4CF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsmtp4.tin.it (vsmtp4.tin.it [212.216.176.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D52A43F3F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from victorvittorivonwiktow@interfree.it) Received: from workstation (213.45.252.155) by vsmtp4.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3F8C844B00DBA8AF; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:29 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c3a6d9$5aafca90$9bfc2dd5@workstation> From: ".VWV." To: "Bill Moran" , "Vulpes Velox" References: <000a01c3a59e$429ce460$7baeabd4@workstation> <20031108113432.35b59671.kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com> <3FAD2AA1.5060500@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:51:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: the unix desktop was possible once X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:52:01 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > What would you need in the way of hosting to get this rolling? I post the last message here about this matter, for further details it would be better we post to 'freebsd-chat' or 'freebsd-stable'. Let me know what you'll eventually choose. In my opinion, the best thing would be an official FreeBSD desktop release of the packages contained in 4.6.2 or 4.7, excluding gtk 2.x for a while, which could be based either on a 4.x or on a 5.x operating system. If this shouldn't seem realistic, the only way is the 'adoption' of the desktop above by a private enterprise, because there is a lot to do to pack an ordinated installation, ready for the end users. At the beginning, a free hosting could also be useful. I don't think it would be necessary to modify the installation tools, which still work like a clock, rather than making a good choice of the useful packages. 'End-user' should be intended for longer as a person who reads the manuals and knows the command-line [better than me], on a unix system. VITTORI