From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jul 5 18: 6:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A6A37B401; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@Glue.umd.edu) Received: from y.glue.umd.edu (IDENT:root@y.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.68]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f6616ax08373; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from y.glue.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by y.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA28518; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by y.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28514; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:06:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: y.glue.umd.edu: howardjp owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: James Howard To: Greg Lehey Cc: Josef Grosch , Brett Glass , Michael Lucas , Nik Clayton , Kris Kennaway , Jonathan Slivko , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Opposing" the "competition" (was: FreeBSD spokesman (was: So what happens to FreeBSD now?)) In-Reply-To: <20010705124136.N371@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > Guys, when will you learn that times change? GNU isn't our > competition, it's part of our cultural space. If you are *really* so No. I first came to FreeBSD when I wanted to learn some programming stuff. Ever try to read GNU code? It is painful. I learned to write socket code from FreeBSD's finger implementation. And of course, supreme simplicity of the ports system is beautiful. There is no match anywhere else. And FreeBSD's stability is jaw dropper. In five years, I have seen FreeBSD systems crash less than a dozen times. FreeBSD is really beautiful OS. There is no better way to describe it. With that in mind, there is no sense in not blowing away the competition. And the GPL is a big, big target on the back of Linux. It is an easy way to strike fear in the hearts of others. Do not look a gift horse in the mouth :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message