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From: Dimitry Andric In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 19:48:31 +0100 Cc: Gleb Popov , sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5ACAB6B9-CD4C-465C-A98F-8711C4A9024B@FreeBSD.org> References: To: Brooks Davis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.400.51.1.1) X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 30 Jan 2023, at 19:37, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 09:17:07PM +0300, Gleb Popov wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 7:59 PM Steve Kargl >> wrote: >>> >>> Why does the lang/llvm15 port default to building flang >>> (ie., the Fortran compiler)? > > In general this is because out of tree builds for llvm components are > have been awkward over time and building it by default is the most > sensible way to get it into packages. I'll likely pull flang out of the > main llvm ports at some point, but that will complicate updates and > generally add work I'd rather not do. > > In specific, I hadn't realized the result wasn't usable after the > frontend changes made upstream between 14 and 15. Not mention that flang takes a tremendous amount of RAM to compile, even for llvm standards! That's really an issue for upstream (just a few huge cpp files seem to cause this), but it's also likely responsible for many poudriere instances falling over. :) -Dimitry