From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Sep 12 00:39:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE510A3DA1 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05A6C91A63; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w8C0dd8d085178; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w8C0dcn9085177; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201809120039.w8C0dcn9085177@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Enabling the WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD knob for 12.0-REL In-Reply-To: To: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:39:38 -0700 (PDT) CC: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp, FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:39:48 -0000 > On 11 September 2018 at 07:35, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > I prefer releng, rather than stable, to make it default. > > Binary releases requiring reproducible builds are built from > > release and releng branches. > > This might be the reasonable long-term strategy, but we don't yet have > experience running through the release process with it enabled. I > would like to enable it by default on the branch, at least initially, > to avoid discovering issues only immediately prior to the release. I wish we had done this before ALPHA1 it would of given us a larger window to work in. There should be a set of builds Thursday, can we get this turned on for them so we can get at least a build with it before we branch? IE, commit this to ^head/ now. Then once stable/12 is branched we can turn it off in head so the developers are not disturbed. And further then once releng/12.0 is branched we can turn it off in stable/12 so that those users have status quo. This I think gives us maximal test time, including the binary upgrade bits that should get tested between each BETA and RC build. And minimal impact to developers and users. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org