From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 15 15:47:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA66BD758 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from corvid.alerce.com (corvid.alerce.com [206.125.171.163]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 228EB97EC5 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corvid.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06DEDE981; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alerce.com; s=dkim; t=1563205668; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=r0TcJc5JPTGRqgNgnrXk3aO9FIbbAXZLI6+O3IL3nT0=; b=aUUDbQHcdq5+K2IMdsGRnb8T5oQswQ2gPqmpbl1ew90J5IiMDghzg4rIJD3lnUwJ1Hpz9D B/L8cKsjQfzFXGf/WO4xCipQGpdGalhpIOEDk5Czog/R482UNzsop9r9proEOPcbjl+Ii1 1w+56MKCw8tmptNYMMjqCp5LHnCYQUtmmlTO4AZMsG2akz96MBvXrMLngWPIdM3oFMVnis LU8Y/aGcngEcCloJ3ULiIULxVVZcMREXKX09ObPn3pbn5s0dKrBpHe/WNnNc3lbRSF30n1 g1ly/gMWCMbIhlc68bfEjWyekU5E6iQdxS/ZHDJ9VZv+7zx0feYMOSNvWU+GbQ== Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id D52332010096E4; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23852.40995.806812.743506@alice.local> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:47:47 -0700 To: hw Cc: George Hartzell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What does it mean to use ports? In-Reply-To: <87sgr7joq7.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <87o91wqjl5.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <23851.63340.445828.46420@alice.local> <87sgr7joq7.fsf@toy.adminart.net> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 228EB97EC5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=alerce.com header.s=dkim header.b=aUUDbQHc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=alerce.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.163 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.94 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[alerce.com:s=dkim]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: corvid.alerce.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[alerce.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[alerce.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 206.125.168.0/21(-4.58), asn: 25795(-0.26), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:47:52 -0000 hw writes: > [...] > Thanks! Somehow I thought this would be a lot easier --- and of course, > it isn't. For now, I'll stick with the binary packages until there's > good reason not to. Anything else is too time consuming because there > is so much that I need to figure out first. You're welcome. It's not *that* hard (once you uncover the correct magic) but there's a fair bit of complexity to juggle. Most of it's inherent complexity (unavoidable) that comes along with "building things from the internet" and/but some of it is specific to the FreeBSD way/history. It's a good thing to practice on a disposable machine (or in a jail, or ...) before you use it on anything serious. g.